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mig welder problem #1722578
01/05/15 10:47 PM
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Welder works great, however when I release the button the wire stops but the gas will not stop. Sometimes its a few seconds and other times it won't ever stop. What is wrong, it is brand new Eastwood 175

Re: mig welder problem [Re: moparmikethree] #1722579
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Could be a bad solenoid, take it back.

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Where would the selonoid be located

Re: mig welder problem [Re: moparmikethree] #1722581
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Common problem with the eastwood 175s...Read the reviews and you'll see you're not the only one...If it's new call customer service and they'll either replace the unit or send the part with instructions.. The 3 year no hassle warranty comes in handy sometimes...Between this issue and the other one from your other post I'd be launching that one back... No USA made parts on that unit...

Re: mig welder problem [Re: screamindriver] #1722582
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It's spelled S-O-L-E-N-O-I-D.

The first syllable has the long O sound.

My Gripe Time:
Typical for Moparts, the OP asks for help and someone tells him that his (whatever) is a piece of crap and he should buy a better one.

We must have a high median income.

R.

Re: mig welder problem [Re: dogdays] #1722583
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My Gripe Time:
Typical for Moparts, the OP asks for help and someone tells him that his (whatever) is a piece of crap and he should buy a better one.

We must have a high median income.

R.




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Re: mig welder problem [Re: dogdays] #1722584
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It's spelled S-O-L-E-N-O-I-D.

The first syllable has the long O sound.

My Gripe Time:
Typical for Moparts, the OP asks for help and someone tells him that his (whatever) is a piece of crap and he should buy a better one.

We must have a high median income.

R.




Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: mig welder problem [Re: dogdays] #1722585
01/07/15 10:34 PM
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It's spelled S-O-L-E-N-O-I-D.

The first syllable has the long O sound.

My Gripe Time:
Typical for Moparts, the OP asks for help and someone tells him that his (whatever) is a piece of crap and he should buy a better one.

We must have a high median income.

R.



I wont tell the poster what to buy but will say this. I purchased one of the welders in question and had nothing but problems. Eastwood was great. They did try to resolve the issues but in the end the welder still did not work properly. Returned the welder for a full refund.
Broke down and purchased a Miller. Has worked flawlessly since day one. Some times lower end items work most times not. Hope the poster gets it worked out. Also Eastwood tech was helpful and willing to assist every time I called.


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Re: mig welder problem [Re: cudatom] #1722586
01/08/15 01:31 AM
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It's spelled S-O-L-E-N-O-I-D.

The first syllable has the long O sound.

My Gripe Time:
Typical for Moparts, the OP asks for help and someone tells him that his (whatever) is a piece of crap and he should buy a better one.

We must have a high median income.

R.



I wont tell the poster what to buy but will say this. I purchased one of the welders in question and had nothing but problems. Eastwood was great. They did try to resolve the issues but in the end the welder still did not work properly. Returned the welder for a full refund.
Broke down and purchased a Miller. Has worked flawlessly since day one. Some times lower end items work most times not. Hope the poster gets it worked out. Also Eastwood tech was helpful and willing to assist every time I called.




Ah...Moparts in the winter....Now that you've brought the issue up...What would someone with a new Eastwood welder that has outstanding customer service and a 3 year no hassle warranty expect to get on a mopar forum full of old,grumpy geezers instead of calling them in the first place ???? Oh and I was speaking from experience on the unit also buy hey fire away when you feel the need...Glad you corrected his spelling I'm sure that helped him out alot with his issue.....

Re: mig welder problem [Re: screamindriver] #1722587
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The reason is eventhough it is brand new I bought it from where my son works. It was a scratch and dent sale. As is. Will Eastwood still cover it

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Re: mig welder problem [Re: moparmikethree] #1722588
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The faceplate issue would be cosmetic and might not be covered under the circumstances you bought it under...The SOLENOID {hope I got that right } is another issue and should be covered under the warranty considering it's a new unit...

That being said I don't think even the "scratch and dent sale" would be an issue considering Eastwoods great customer service... I'd go after the mechanical problem with them and see what their solution would be if they offer up a new unit so be it..If they want to send the part at least you'll have a working unit...

I was'nt trying to be a smart---in my initial post we ran into the exact same issue on the one we used for a project and as stated eastwood is more than willing to make their unit work for you...

Re: mig welder problem [Re: screamindriver] #1722589
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Called Eastwood two times today, didn't talk to any humans. Had to leave messages both times. (Did I spell everything correctly this time ?)

Re: mig welder problem [Re: moparmikethree] #1722590
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Sorry you weren't able to speak w/anyone at Eastwood. I know when I had issues w/mine they were very helpful. They sent out different parts 3 times trying to correct the problems. It just never worked for me.
My post was simply to suggest calling. As far as the spelling I could care less it was just part of a quote that I disagreed with. Maybe I should have just copied the part I disagreed with.
"Typical for Moparts, the OP asks for help and someone tells him that his (whatever) is a piece of crap and he should buy a better one.
We must have a high median income."
Didn't see anyone bash the unit just said they would return it. I understand why it was purchased and I tried the same unit myself. Just got fed up w/it not working and went a different direction. Hope in the end all wks out for you.


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Re: mig welder problem [Re: cudatom] #1722591
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Which number are you calling ??? customer service 800-345-1178...When I called about the gun trigger and the delay of the shielding gas to stop after the trigger was released I was informed the 2-3 second delay was normal and was the way it is designed...I did notice when using the aluminum spool gun the length of the cord did make the delay seem longer...
But if it's not shutting off you've got some trouble there...

And as cudatom has pointed out I too was'nt suggesting a newer{or more expensive} unit just a replacement..Alot of the trouble with these replies is someone reading into what's actually being said and the mindset of who's reading it...OK I'm done with the just wanted to set that straight...

Oddly enough I had to call Eastwood CS today and got right through ..

Re: mig welder problem [Re: screamindriver] #1722592
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Which number are you calling ??? customer service 800-345-1178...When I called about the gun trigger and the delay of the shielding gas to stop after the trigger was released I was informed the 2-3 second delay was normal and was the way it is designed...I did notice when using the aluminum spool gun the length of the cord did make the delay seem longer...
But if it's not shutting off you've got some trouble there...

And as cudatom has pointed out I too was'nt suggesting a newer{or more expensive} unit just a replacement..Alot of the trouble with these replies is someone reading into what's actually being said and the mindset of who's reading it...OK I'm done with the just wanted to set that straight...

Oddly enough I had to call Eastwood CS today and got right through ..



What benifit would a 2-3 second delay in gas shut off provide??? I can't see any at all, and even if there is one, a split second would be enough...

Re: mig welder problem [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1722593
01/09/15 11:01 PM
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Which number are you calling ??? customer service 800-345-1178...When I called about the gun trigger and the delay of the shielding gas to stop after the trigger was released I was informed the 2-3 second delay was normal and was the way it is designed...I did notice when using the aluminum spool gun the length of the cord did make the delay seem longer...
But if it's not shutting off you've got some trouble there...

And as cudatom has pointed out I too was'nt suggesting a newer{or more expensive} unit just a replacement..Alot of the trouble with these replies is someone reading into what's actually being said and the mindset of who's reading it...OK I'm done with the just wanted to set that straight...

Oddly enough I had to call Eastwood CS today and got right through ..



What benifit would a 2-3 second delay in gas shut off provide??? I can't see any at all, and even if there is one, a split second would be enough...




To keep porosity out of the weld while it cools, called post flow. It's adjustable on some welders. You don't just jerk the gas nozzle away from the work do you? right after releasing the trigger. No you keep it there to provide gas flow to keep the weld pure while it cools.

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Which number are you calling ??? customer service 800-345-1178...When I called about the gun trigger and the delay of the shielding gas to stop after the trigger was released I was informed the 2-3 second delay was normal and was the way it is designed...I did notice when using the aluminum spool gun the length of the cord did make the delay seem longer...
But if it's not shutting off you've got some trouble there...

And as cudatom has pointed out I too was'nt suggesting a newer{or more expensive} unit just a replacement..Alot of the trouble with these replies is someone reading into what's actually being said and the mindset of who's reading it...OK I'm done with the just wanted to set that straight...

Oddly enough I had to call Eastwood CS today and got right through ..



What benifit would a 2-3 second delay in gas shut off provide??? I can't see any at all, and even if there is one, a split second would be enough...




To keep porosity out of the weld while it cools, called post flow. It's adjustable on some welders. You don't just jerk the gas nozzle away from the work do you? right after releasing the trigger. No you keep it there to provide gas flow to keep the weld pure while it cools.







If you would have read the directions on how to use /weld with a MIG welder, you would have known why the gas doesn't shut off when you let up on the trigger and to hold the tip at the end of the weld for that period of time.


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Sorry it came with no instruction sheet

Re: mig welder problem [Re: moparmikethree] #1722596
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Sorry it came with no instruction sheet






No excuse anymore, there's a web site called GOOGLE . type in the machine name and model for the manual. Read it and print it for reference..



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Re: mig welder problem [Re: rowin4] #1722597
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Sorry it came with no instruction sheet






No excuse anymore, there's a web site called GOOGLE . type in the machine name and model for the manual. Read it and print it for reference..




Well, nice try on the condescending attitude but in this case reading the instructions would'nt have helped him.....

I did read the instructions and all available info and there's no reference to the {excessive and non-adjustable} shielding gas delay in the mig 175...

And just for the record not all migs have a long shielding gas delay like this welder I know my lincoln does'nt and neither does the Century mig I use work...

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