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Any car audio experts ? #171988
12/20/08 09:26 PM
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Looking to put a used JVC KD-G120R in my 71 Demon, Right now i have a $25 road gear casette player in the dash and chepo road gear 3 way 6x9's in the rear, i want to put the JVC under the dash so i'm guessing i'm going to need a install kit, also what would be a good set of speakers to use with this unit? I'm guessing even cheapo pioneer or infinitys would sound better than what i've got,output is 17w RMS x4. Thanks

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I like the sound of the pioneers over the infinity. its personal preference though. I found the under dash kit in the installers section of best buy. You will have to rewire the deck into the car as the two will have different plugs. I am going to be doing a similar swap this winter changing my cheap 6x9's to pioneer.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com these guys seem to have pretty good prices.


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Re: Any car audio experts ? [Re: blk00rt] #171990
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I've had good luck with pioneer and sony xplode speakers. Sound quality is good for the price but a lousy deck will sound like crap no matter how bad the speakers are. Don't know how good that jvc deck is, but just sayin...

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thinking of those Sonys, they have sensitivity of 93 db/w/m so should work good with just the HU

Re: Any car audio experts ? [Re: ademon] #171992
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I would always go with Pioneer over Sony Xplodes. I have installed quite a few car audio systems and Sony Xplodes were always kind of weak aka sounded cheaper. Perhaps they have gotten better in the past couple of years..been about 2 years since I have heard a set though...

That being said, I have never been dissapointed with Pioneer speakers or head units...from the low-end units to the higher end..

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I would always go with Pioneer over Sony Xplodes. I have installed quite a few car audio systems and Sony Xplodes were always kind of weak aka sounded cheaper. Perhaps they have gotten better in the past couple of years..been about 2 years since I have heard a set though...

That being said, I have never been dissapointed with Pioneer speakers or head units...from the low-end units to the higher end..



I agree. The biggest difference is the efficiency of the speakers. Pioneers have SPL sensitivities of 94(or more)db at one watt. In both their home and automotive speakers they lead the pack in efficiency.
Close to or tied to Pioneer in SPL is Jensen TriAxials. The speaker cones in Jensen do not last as long as the Pioneers exposed to the sun in the rear deck so I would still go with the Pioneers.
I am thinking of putting a black speaker grill cloth over the new ones in the current rebuild to see if I can preserve them a bit more.
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I would always go with Pioneer over Sony Xplodes. I have installed quite a few car audio systems and Sony Xplodes were always kind of weak aka sounded cheaper. Perhaps they have gotten better in the past couple of years..been about 2 years since I have heard a set though...

That being said, I have never been dissapointed with Pioneer speakers or head units...from the low-end units to the higher end..



I agree. The biggest difference is the efficiency of the speakers. Pioneers have SPL sensitivities of 94(or more)db at one watt. In both their home and automotive speakers they lead the pack in efficiency.
Close to or tied to Pioneer in SPL is Jensen TriAxials. The speaker cones in Jensen do not last as long as the Pioneers exposed to the sun in the rear deck so I would still go with the Pioneers.
I am thinking of putting a black speaker grill cloth over the new ones in the current rebuild to see if I can preserve them a bit more.
Craig




I wouldn't get to caught up in the efficency of the speakers. In theory, the higher sensitivity would "do more" with the same amount of power but I have heard that some of these manufacturers use slightly different methods to attain these vaues hence they could be off by few dB (just like their amps power rating in watts). Just about any set of 6x9s from a name-brand mfr. will be close of the sensitivity.

I have always steered clear of Jensens, at least their head-units...I have heard their speakers are fairly good. Sony Xpodes were always those speakers/amps that looked really cool but didn't perform. The Xplode amps especially were a freaking joke...well they looked nice....

Re: Any car audio experts ? [Re: cjskotni] #171995
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I use boxes made for boats to mount my stereos. Flip them upside down, and mount under the dash, I usually hang a 3 gauge cluster under the box as well. Looks sweet, and you can have aftermarket stereo, and 3 gauges, without having cut your dash.

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I use boxes made for boats to mount my stereos. Flip them upside down, and mount under the dash, I usually hang a 3 gauge cluster under the box as well. Looks sweet, and you can have aftermarket stereo, and 3 gauges, without having cut your dash.




DO you have any pictures?

I was thinking of leaving the stock radio in the dash and hooking up another under the seat or trunk with a remote.


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Re: Any car audio experts ? [Re: ademon] #171997
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Get yourself a little amplifier and some decent 6 x 9's.


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Re: Any car audio experts ? [Re: ademon] #171998
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Why not put it in the dash? This should be a din mount and all you do is fit the sleeve to your dash and slide the jvc in. It would be a whole lot easier and cleaner. Also try using the 6x9's that you already have. They may work out fine. You really need an amp if you want a good quality sound and most middle to high end speakers won't sound good at all without an amp. So buying good speakers isn't always the right decision as they sound like crap without an amp. Even with some of these newer head units that have 50x4 output, it's not enough power. I have found that using an amp and factory speakers can sound better than good speakers without an amp.

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