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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712817
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XRP's retail price for a double swivel -10 AN ORB fitting part number 209010 is $42 each.
I usually get the jobber pricing and that is $29 each.
I guess after tax and shipping it ends up about the same.
Aeroquip is very good stuff also


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: AlexP] #1712818
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I've got both nipples available. I can go either way and still use my jeep adapter.



Does anyone know the exact part number for the 3/4-16" oil filter connector? I think it is 04104511AB but I am not 100% sure.
I want to get a couple just in case the thread angles/ clocking on the one that will come on my block doesn't work out with my oil filter adapter. If I have a couple extra oil filter connectors the more chances I have for the oil filter to clock at the right angle and not hit the motor mount.

They are cheap enough, just not sure of the part number?

Thanks!


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712819
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I just tried out the Hamburger oil filter adapter and it is TOO TALL!

I wasn't able to get a picture but it hits the Schumacher mounts right on the side. I would have to butcher and take out chunks out of the mount and/or the billet adapter to make it work. My plan is to get a shallower oil filter adapter instead and see it that will fit. I probably will have to drop down to -10AN ports. Oh well, that's life...

I'll keep you guys posted. Stay tuned!


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712820
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Can't you re-clock the nipple in the apapter so it tightens with the fittings in a better spot, like how mine are?


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712821
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No the adapter is just a huge chunk of aluminum that is in the way. It just drops down too low and hits the mount itself Schumacher or I would imagine a TTI mount. I just went ahead and bought a bunch of different adapters to try out. I need a shallow style which may work. If not I will need to get the block off plate


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712822
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Maybe this one would work better?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctr-22-595/overview/

You can clock it any way you want the in and out ports to sit. It's a nice piece, I had to get one for the 360 in my duster because of engine setback and header clearance.

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 73MagDuster] #1712823
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Thanks! I actually looked at that part but I thunk it would be too thick

I went and got the Moroso 23280
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-23820
CVR OFB69
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cvs-ofb69
Earl's 1178ERL
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-1178erl
and TransDapt 1013
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/trd-1013
to figure out which one would work best?

Hopefully one works!


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712824
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Do a little cutting and welding and ditch that mount setup. It would've been SO much better if these swap mounts would've been 2 piece with all the offset built into the K frame side instead of the block side. Everyone could be running stock oil filters in the stock locations. Instead these mounts are built with first grader thinking of "we need to connect a to b and use a factory insolator no matter what" who cares if you MUST spend another $250 to have an oil filter.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712825
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Yeah in the back of my mind I was thinking the same thing as it only needs a few inches and everything would have cleared.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712826
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Quote:

Do a little cutting and welding and ditch that mount setup. It would've been SO much better if these swap mounts would've been 2 piece with all the offset built into the K frame side instead of the block side. Everyone could be running stock oil filters in the stock locations. Instead these mounts are built with first grader thinking of "we need to connect a to b and use a factory insolator no matter what" who cares if you MUST spend another $250 to have an oil filter.




Same mentality used with shorty bb headers. Must run a 300 starter to clear them. I don't get it sometimes.

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712827
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dumb question probably... I am looking at a 14 challenger redline for autox and track days while i get the valiant put together. Are these mods needed for any gen3 to survive or is this just for serious track cars?

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: buconine] #1712828
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dumb question probably... I am looking at a 14 challenger redline for autox and track days while i get the valiant put together. Are these mods needed for any gen3 to survive or is this just for serious track cars?



Auto-x is easy on parts,1st and 2nd gear, maybe 60mph, I wouldn't worry about it. Save your money and just have fun while improving your driving skill.

Here is a pic of the adapters I just got.

From left to right:
Moroso 23820, TransDapt 1013, Hamburger 3320
You can see how tall the Hamburger is compared to the others. I am hoping one of the two will work, but it will force me to use -10AN fittings. The Moroso does have a -12AN inlet to the bearings but, I will have to use the 3/8 npt/-10AN oil pump outlet port on the side of the block


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: buconine] #1712829
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With any street tire you will be fine. I know SRT used to have a requirement that their cars have an oil system capable of Max lats on stock tires for either continuos 30 or 60 seconds on a skid pad. I don't know if 6.1/6.4 has the same pan/pickup as a 5.7. To save costs they tried to get a such commonality in the engine accessories as possible.

They also have or had a requirement that a SRT product had to undergo 24 hours of lapping at a road course as part of their development. Tires and brakes could be replaced and it wasn't continuous.

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712830
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I was able to try out the adapters that I got and the TransDapt 1013 style will work with the Schumacher mount. There is a small clocking issue but it is a minor detail.

All I would need to do is get a few more of the threaded nipples in the right of my pic to experiment with and I should be good.

The adapter needs to be clocked perpendicular to block as shown and everything pretty much clears

Luckily there are 1/2 NPT to -12AN fittings available so I can still use -12 lines

I also tried the Moroso 23820 adapter but unfortunately the center port hits the mount.

I still have to try the CVR-OFB69 and Earl's 1178ERL adapters. Those two should be billet aluminum vs. the TransDapt which is cast and isn't the best quality.

I'll keep you guys posted


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712831
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The Derale im using is not Billet but it has a hex head nipple held in with a snap ring that allows you to clock it until it tightens in the perfect spot. Carry on....


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712832
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Very nice!
I should have just followed your lead and got that Derale in the first place haha!

It's not that I have to have a billet piece, just that I noticed tiny little aluminum flakes on the cast part vs. super clean on the billet parts


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