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Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods #1712797
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Starting a new thread on what oiling modifications it will take to make a Gen 3 survive road racing and track days. I am going to be using an Accusump oil accumulator 35-40 psi electric valve, -12AN lines to a remote mount filter, air/oil separator etc.

I also found a Hamburger's oil filter adapter 3320 that has -12AN ports. It is expensive but I am a sucker for billet aluminum

http://www.hamburgersperformance.com/SPIN-ON-Bypass-Adapters
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Just wanted to separate this from the Schumacher mount thread


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712798
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PurePower oil filter?

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1712799
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Im still not convinced a 10AN is a restriction. The block is the restriction, I just made the circuit longer is all.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1712800
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Yeah, kind of skeptical about it but, I'm going to try it out and see if it performs.

I might have made a mistake on the Hamburger part number. The one with 22mm threads is part number 3323

I'm not 100% sure what threads a Gen 3 uses


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712801
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Mine:
-10 AN
Oil cooler
Remote oil filter
Accusump

They run hot. You'll want an oil cooler.

I log my oil pressures. Don't think the pump has ever ran low on pressure and required the accusump (street tires). I wouldn't run without it though. We'll see with different tires.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712802
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Quote:

Yeah, kind of skeptical about it but, I'm going to try it out and see if it performs.

I might have made a mistake on the Hamburger part number. The one with 22mm threads is part number 3323

I'm not 100% sure what threads a Gen 3 uses




I've used Nascar take off's before, cheap to buy usually get a bunch of fittings/hoses with it to? FYI ...12AN female fittings will screw on to common laundry tub taps to flush with hot water for cleaning. E-Bay search Nascar oil filter and lots come up. I've used Canton oil filter block adapters too, worked great!

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: brads70] #1712803
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There is both a metric and standard nipple available for the oil filter area.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: AlexP] #1712804
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I think 09+ are 22mm metric, 08 and down are 3/4-16 just like old Mopars.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712805
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what amazed me was the cost of the adapters from hamburger was the same for all instead of a 40-50% add on for the mopar spec one..........

Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: Uhcoog1] #1712806
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Quote:

They run hot. You'll want an oil cooler.



I am looking at Setrab oil coolers just not sure what size to get? They make a Series 1 cooler with up to 72 rows but I kind of doubt I need one that big.
http://www.setrabusa.com/products/oilcoolers/engine/index.html

I have a big 33x19 inch Be Cool radiator and I am unsure of what my oil temps are at? I may run a track day without an oil cooler just to get an idea of oil temps and see if they hover around 290F*

I found this 215F* oil thermostat from Improved Racing that looks functional as well.

http://www.improvedracing.com/thermostat...434.html?sort=0
Need to make sure all the water boils out of the oil


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712807
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Quote:

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They run hot. You'll want an oil cooler.



I am looking at Setrab oil coolers just not sure what size to get? They make a Series 1 cooler with up to 72 rows but I kind of doubt I need one that big.
http://www.setrabusa.com/products/oilcoolers/engine/index.html

I have a big 33x19 inch Be Cool radiator and I am unsure of what my oil temps are at? I may run a track day without an oil cooler just to get an idea of oil temps and see if they hover around 290F*

I found this 215F* oil thermostat from Improved Racing that looks functional as well.

http://www.improvedracing.com/thermostat...434.html?sort=0
Need to make sure all the water boils out of the oil



That's funny, I think that thermostat looks familiar. Bummer about the teenie tiny 10AN ports though.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: 72Swinger] #1712808
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That's cool! You got the 215F* right?!
Improved racing said that the restriction wouldn't be a problem
but nevertheless the Accusump will take care of that


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712809
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Mine is the first version, and I cant remember the exact temp but I know it is at least 200*. I have been meaning to call them about maybe swapping my old version for the new hi-flow.


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712810
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I got the Hamburger oil filter adapter it's a really nice piece

All billet, Made in USA and I got it less than $90 bucks can't go wrong with that

Here it is with an XRP -12AN ORB fitting
Hopefully everything fits


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Re: Gen 3 & Road Racing oiling mods [Re: RylisPro] #1712811
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I can see that oil filter adapter in my future.

What threads did you pick on it?


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This adapter is part number 3320 with 3/4-16" threads.
I had to make sure sure with Arrow Racing first of what they were using for my engine.

If you have an engine with 22mm oil filter threads the part number is 3323


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I've got both nipples available. I can go either way and still use my jeep adapter.

Im mentally planning another bullet for the car and I've got some odds and ends for later. I'd like to overdo the oiling system and some other pieces with this next engine.

I see a 426 with a drag pack intake and the road race oil pan later.


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Don't commit to any fittings until you get it in the car and all mocked to check clearances IMO. Put all the O-rings in a ziplok and set them aside until final assembly so they are un-used at go time. I had to use these Aeroquip 90* swivel fittings at the adapter for K member clearance.


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Don't commit to any fittings until you get it in the car and all mocked to check clearances IMO.



I agree completely. This is why I like to use the XRP ProPLUS Race Crimp stuff because you can mock things up with inexpensive clear PVC tubing before buying the exact hose you need and cut down on waste.

Aeroquip is good stuff as well and a good tip from them is to not mix and match fittings from other manufacturers (Earl's, Aeroquip, XRP etc.) Staying consistent with one fitting manufacturer yields less leaks.


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When I did my plumbing, Aeroquip was the only brand that had a 90* male 10an O-ring swivel fitting under $50 EACH. I don't have room to use a straight 10an o-ring at the adapter and regular 10an to 10an 90* hose fitting. If these leak I will have to raise the engine to get them off.... <<<<NOT!


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