Re: front disk set up for a 59 sport fury
[Re: poorboy]
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12/15/14 11:18 PM
12/15/14 11:18 PM
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moparx
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I believe I've read everything between the ball joints from a disc brake early 70s C body bolt up. I know there are several aftermarket companies that have "kits". Gene
gene, the 65-73 c- bodies used the k772 upper joint and the k7003[right] and k7005]left] lower joints. these are the joints with the steering arms attached. these lower joints might be the same taper as the early joints, but i have not compared them with each other, as i just concentrated on the screw in joints. just something to think about.
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Re: front disk set up for a 59 sport fury
[Re: moparx]
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12/16/14 01:16 AM
12/16/14 01:16 AM
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poorboy
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Moparx, back in the mid 70s I could have written a book (and probably should have) about what fit where and what would and would not interchange. Like most things when your young, you think you will never forget this kind of stuff, but as time wears on, you forget.
Thank you for the information, at some point, someone will ask, and I will probably remember about 1/2 of it again. That happens to me when I don't do things first hand. At this point in my life, I don't anticipate a disc brake swap onto a 59 Mopar, but my son keeps coming up with these projects for me, so who knows. His current project is a 57 Dodge wagon, the disc brake conversion was already riding inside the car when it came to us, or I might have been doing the project first hand. As it is, all I'm doing is installing parts.
One of the things I've noticed about Moparts is sometimes no one will respond until someone else does, then the info flows. I am prepared to make an educated guess based on past experiences, as long as I state "I believe," or "if I remember correctly". Then people with hard facts or real experience always step up and present the actual facts, especially if it conflicts with what I say, and I'm OK with that. Fortunately, there is still a lot of stuff I know for sure are certain and I will back that up.
When it comes to front suspension parts, there is generally 2 different taper angles, and 2 major taper hole sizes (until the metric system conversion added a few more). After size and angle, the next basic differences becomes the area surrounding the tapered hole, and the area surrounding the stud. The process used to mount the stud and the tapered hole change from time to time as well. Through the years, Mopar tends to make running changes interchangeable as units. For the most part, disc brakes use the same size and angle of tapper as drum brakes on similar vehicles. Its usually not cost effective to maintain two different mounting systems. The ones that do, do so because the disc system has been adapted from a different, existing system. The biggest problem is when we try to update the mounting systems (change the ball joint design), then have to deal with additional changes. Gene
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Re: front disk set up for a 59 sport fury
[Re: Southern steel]
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12/16/14 05:07 PM
12/16/14 05:07 PM
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John_Kunkel
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The F, M, J-body discs will fit the Forward Look cars but, just like the other cars, the spindle height is different and some will argue against the swap. There's a bunch of bolt-on kits available for the FL cars, Scarebird is my favorite....fits the stock drum brake spindles and allows you to source your own rotors/calipers. https://scarebird.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=64&product_id=54
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Re: front disk set up for a 59 sport fury
[Re: poorboy]
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12/16/14 11:31 PM
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moparx
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gene, "when we were young.........." . geeze, when was that ? i forget.... you hit it on the head when you said about writing a book. we should have done just that ! back in the early 70's , i had a junk yard and could have told almost any one what would fit what, and there were many times the hollander was wrong ! today, if i didn't have the different "master catalogs", parts books, and a few hollanders, i couldn't tell if my socks would fit my feet ! i just wished there were a way we could impart our vast experiances into a base that could be accessed for future reference. and you are spot on with the taper and hole sizes. i have physically compared many part numbers, but as you know, there are a huge bunch out there that i haven't. and at this stage of the game, i'm like you. if i know for sure, or can give an educated guess, i'll try to help out if i can. keep up the good work !
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Re: front disk set up for a 59 sport fury
[Re: moparx]
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12/17/14 04:25 PM
12/17/14 04:25 PM
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John_Kunkel
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The '71-'74 AMC Matador disc brake spindles bolted on with four bolts.....very popular for home-built trailers.
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