Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
[Re: KillerBee]
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12/12/14 02:43 PM
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Regional fluctuations for equipment level and price sure seems to make a big difference. I know most out this way want 4x4, and I guess that was why I got a "great deal" when I bought my 2wd . . . not that I need to sell my truck, but when you get into a new rig with all the right stuff, sure is hard to wonder about keeping the old machine . . . but I do like not having payments or dishing out money for something I already have. Guess my thinking was if I sold off my Magnum RT AWD and my truck, use that $$$ for a NEW 4x4 truck, then I am going from two rigs into one that would do everything the two do.
Thanks for the comments . . . guess it comes down to what I guess I might be able to pull for both vehicles. . . . and like most I have kept both in premo condition, which hopefully helps in resale. . .
Mark
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
[Re: KillerBee]
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12/12/14 07:50 PM
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I would think my truck should be worth $20k if I sell it myself.
That is what I am looking for. Too bad you are not in Minnesota. Is there any rust hiding under those rear flares? Cat converter? There is a 58,000 mile '02 2500QCSB 6 speed diesel Ram for $21k locally, but I can't stand the color.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/12/14 09:03 PM
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It's a bad time to sell with gasoline prices dropping and diesel barely changing. I doubt we'll ever see diesel cheaper than gasoline ever again.
Diesel is well over $1 a gallon more and that's a significant enough difference for people to put buying any diesel (new or used) on "hold".
People in general are not good at saving money so the reality is folks just simply don't have 20 grand in their bank account to buy a mint used truck. Most just barely scrape up enough money to pay the first months' rent on a new one and keep going back to the dealer for another....
I tried selling my Flame Red '02 Cummins 4x4 SLT+ Sport with 15,000 miles and not one single person who called on it had the money. Now, going through the same thing with my '07 Hemi Sport: 9,000 miles on it, no one has any money.
I mean, you can try.........just don't expect it to be gone tomorrow.
Diesel is .60 cents higher than gas here in Florence ky.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/12/14 09:06 PM
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I think the reason diesel is so high, is because the rest of the world is burning higher sulfur diesel in there cars and trucks because it get's better mileage than gasoline which is causing a high demand for crude oil. The rest of the world is using a higher sulfur diesel and here we are getting bent over buying ultra low sulfur fuel.
Yes my tow vehicle burns diesel and diesel engines are so nice, the older ones and not the newer ones.
And like said above I don't believe diesel will ever be cheaper than gasoline.
So I would think? that diesel trucks are losing there value and popularity? It may take a few more years for it to sink in? I know hard to believe, I think the future is in natural gas. I already know of several fleets of trucks around here that are operating on natural gas.
I have a diesel fuel bulk plant and deliver thousands of gallons of it everyday.
My new last year 3/4 ton pickup truck is gasoline. And I am thankful that it is every time I fill up. Diesel around here is $1.20 more than 87 gasoline. Even I can't swallow that.
I use my pickup to pull trailers(but not big enclosed trailers) and there's plenty of power in my new truck to do the job. Way more power than my 20 year old gasoline 454 had and I pulled enclosed trailers with it.
My new f-250 has more torque than our 5.7 hemi has. So I'm driving a ford now, it's a nice truck and rides better and quieter than our 2007 300. That's saying a lot.
You need to come across the river and see diesel prices, .6o cents more than gas
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
[Re: gss]
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12/12/14 10:44 PM
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I would think my truck should be worth $20k if I sell it myself.
That is what I am looking for. Too bad you are not in Minnesota. Is there any rust hiding under those rear flares? Cat converter? There is a 58,000 mile '02 2500QCSB 6 speed diesel Ram for $21k locally, but I can't stand the color.
I bought my truck out of North Carolina about 8 years ago.
I put the flares on when I bought it and haven't had them off in years, I doubt there's any rust under them.
I put the Mopar rear wheel wheel liners on the truck when I brought it to Ohio, http://www.rumblebee.org/viewtopic.php?p=159162&sid=4f43303a673bdbf73937fb8356d5b53b
These keep the nasty winter sludge and salt form getting behind the rear bed sides and off the rear frame rails.
The only rust on the truck is on the rear painted sport bumper, I plan to replace it with a new one that will be Rhino-lined body color.
The bed has had a tonneau cover since new and has a bedrug liner inside, it's like new.
My Ram is an early 2004 HO (305hp 555torque) no cats or emissions.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 12:28 AM
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There's a 2006 Ram 2500 4x4 mega cab Cummins automatic w/ 109k miles on it for sale locally that I want bad. They're asking 30k for it.
Even the older 12v & 24v trucks are bringing good money...as long as they're quad cab and 4x4.
Shoot, that means I could sell mine for a profit after driving it for 6 months!
Like I mentioned above, I paid $30k out the door for mine, had 87k miles, 2006 Megacab, Auto 4x4. today it has 100,500 miles on it.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 02:15 AM
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My Ram is an early 2004 HO (305hp 555torque) no cats or emissions.
I'd be keeping that one
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 11:24 AM
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Interesting on the "stick has more value" comments.... We rarely see a manual equipped trucks out here,
Hence the reason for the push on value for them. The guys that want them have a hard time finding them, and are willing to pay. Autos are everywhere.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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12/13/14 01:25 PM
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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 02:03 PM
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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?
This one came for sale 4 years ago in Minneapolis, paid 8500.00 for it. Its almost the holy grail, 98 quad cab, 4x4, auto with the 12V Cummins. It has 181k on it and rust has started on the drivers side door and over the wheel wells which is standard for trucks in the rust belt. Not sure about non rust belt areas.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 05:20 PM
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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?
That’s what I was trying to figure out. I’ve seen some very clean looking ones on the internet with 300k miles on them. Then I’ve seen some used up work trucks that looked like they were ready to be put out to pasture. Tomorrow I’m picking up a 97 with 280k miles on it. I know it was still being driven until the transfer case took a dump a year or two ago. I don’t know what happens to these trucks when guys are done with them, I’ve certainly never seen a cummins pickup in the junkyard.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 06:34 PM
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So the Cummins is typically good for well over 300,000 miles, but at what point does the rest of the truck start to deteriorate significantly. In other words, if you were looking at a used truck, what would be your cutoff point on miles?
That’s what I was trying to figure out. I’ve seen some very clean looking ones on the internet with 300k miles on them. Then I’ve seen some used up work trucks that looked like they were ready to be put out to pasture. Tomorrow I’m picking up a 97 with 280k miles on it. I know it was still being driven until the transfer case took a dump a year or two ago. I don’t know what happens to these trucks when guys are done with them, I’ve certainly never seen a cummins pickup in the junkyard.
Its been my experience Manitoba does not have a lot Dodge trucks with the Cummins in them, not sure why and yet in Saskatchewan, they're loaded. I have a friend over there and he finds them on a regular basis. In the years I've looked for one here, its been slim pickings. And agree you will not see one in any wrecker's yard.
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Re: Ram 2500 Cummins Value over the years . . .
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12/13/14 09:50 PM
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Guys realize the weak points and up grade them. The dash is like $200. The injection pump was failing because of the bad factory lift pump. Most guys put a FASS or an Airdog on ASAP. As far as the paint a lot depends on the color. Some hold up much better than others. Almost forgot the trans. If you get a good rebuild with upgraded parts they will last 300,000 miles or more even if you beat them every day.
Yup, that's what my buddy and I call "Diesel tax"
I've added a 2 micron fuel/water separator/filter to help out the factory filter and change all the filters at every oil change. This will greatly increase injector life. I'll be adding pyro, boost, and trans temp gauges to keep an eye on vitals and ensure I don't abuse it too hard. I plan to build the front end at some point and using quality parts that may cost me a lot, but will be a LOT cheaper than a new truck. Likewise on the trans...WHEN my stock trans blows...it'll get rebuilt with billet converter, input shaft, upgraded clutches, etc. so that it'll go 200k+ miles.
This truck is currently rust free, and I plan to do routine cleaning to keep it that way...power wash the inside of the body crevices, like the wheel wells in the bed (remove tail lights to get access) pull the front plastic liners and keep them clear of debris. hose out the rocker panels, etc. THEN, spray them all down with rust inhibitor of some type.
I hope that this is the last truck I buy for 20 years.
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