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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: frank] #1704034
11/28/14 11:45 PM
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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: Challenger 1] #1704035
11/29/14 12:44 AM
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OT but for reference it is a good read on ring seal. "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com




I have never read the entire link, it's a good one. But I think your saying? or they are saying a PCV will help the rings seat better just like a vacuum pump on a much smaller scale?

Either way that's my opinion for a street car, that a PCV valve will help the rings.


Actually I was not thinking of a connection between the PCV and ring breakin just that the mention of blowby made me think of that article which sounds very very convincing (to me), that the quality of the ring breakin (good fair or bad) is going to be determined in that very narrow (time) window. My next one I'm gonna gun it repeatedly as they talk about (& a leakdown before breakin/after breakin & at later intervals).


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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: RapidRobert] #1704036
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Add the PCV as suggested. Connect it to manifold or carb base vacuum. You will need to drill the valve cover and add the baffle. Mopar performance has the PCV grommet and baffle kit for those valve covers.
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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: Challenger 1] #1704037
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Can you post a picture of the passenger side valve cover?



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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: frank] #1704038
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You can get a twist in pcv valve that looks like a breather, autoparts stores sell them or get a different grommet for the blockoff grommet you have on the pass side valve cover.

Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: challengermike] #1704039
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This topic has been beat to death over the years on here. PCV valves are very helpful on street engines to help ventilate the crankcase. PCV valves flow max amounts at low vacuum(wot) conditions. They flow less at closed throttle(high vacuum) conditions....check it out!

https://www.google.com/search?q=pcv+valv...mp;ved=0CCQQsAQ

Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: Dcuda69] #1704040
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This topic has been beat to death over the years on here. PCV valves are very helpful on street engines to help ventilate the crankcase. PCV valves flow max amounts at low vacuum(wot) conditions. They flow less at closed throttle(high vacuum) conditions....check it out!

https://www.google.com/search?q=pcv+valv...mp;ved=0CCQQsAQ


Me thinks you have the flow backwards, maximum at idle to part throttle, no or almost no flow at WOT that is according to all the vacume gauges I've used over the years


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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: frank] #1704041
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Can you post a picture of the passenger side valve cover?







try a fram fv184 valve.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/fram-pcv-valve-fv184/22660083-P

Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: Cab_Burge] #1704042
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This topic has been beat to death over the years on here. PCV valves are very helpful on street engines to help ventilate the crankcase. PCV valves flow max amounts at low vacuum(wot) conditions. They flow less at closed throttle(high vacuum) conditions....check it out!

https://www.google.com/search?q=pcv+valv...mp;ved=0CCQQsAQ


Me thinks you have the flow backwards, maximum at idle to part throttle, no or almost no flow at WOT that is according to all the vacume gauges I've used over the years




Take a look at the link I posted. I understand vacuum drops under load....however the flow through the valve increases because of spring tension. They do that because,as you know, the engine produces more blow-by under load. I have posted pics of the flow through the valve on numerous occasions, I just don't have them on this pc. The link has many of the same pics.

Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: Cab_Burge] #1704043
11/30/14 02:58 PM
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Oil is blowing out the breather located in the left valve cover. Its enough to puddle on the floor after I drive the car for about 5 or more miles. What is causing this and how do I fix it?


Crankcase pressure is the only reason that oil will be blown out of the breather caps Two possible causes, possibly a combination of both. First one is a plugged PCV valve , the other is bad ring seal. Remove the breather cap and PCV and start the motor up, let it get warmed up and then revved the motor up from idle to around 4000 RPM several times rapidly, if the smoke from the valve covers increases each time you rev it up it is blowby Let us know what you find, also has this motor set for a long time before you started driving it? A very simple way to check the PCV valve is to put your finger over the hole in the bottom with the motor running, if the idle speed decreases it is working, your plugging a metered vacume leak If it doesn't change the idle speed it, the PCV valve or hose, is plugged up Let us know what you find




bad rings or burned pistion... ask me how I know. Like mentioned you need a leak down. sorry


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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: Dcuda69] #1704044
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This topic has been beat to death over the years on here. PCV valves are very helpful on street engines to help ventilate the crankcase. PCV valves flow max amounts at low vacuum(wot) conditions. They flow less at closed throttle(high vacuum) conditions....check it out!

https://www.google.com/search?q=pcv+valv...mp;ved=0CCQQsAQ


Me thinks you have the flow backwards, maximum at idle to part throttle, no or almost no flow at WOT that is according to all the vacume gauges I've used over the years




Take a look at the link I posted. I understand vacuum drops under load....however the flow through the valve increases because of spring tension. They do that because,as you know, the engine produces more blow-by under load. I have posted pics of the flow through the valve on numerous occasions, I just don't have them on this pc. The link has many of the same pics.





The PCV flows a small amout at idle because the vacum is high and it pulls the pintle in very far. It flows the most at part throttle when vacum is a little lower then at idle but it has to have some vacum to pull the pintle valve part the way from the back of the valve because at wide open throttle with no vacum the spring closes the valve to the back of it for no flow at WOT and no vacum. It also does that so on a backfire the valve will seat and keep any backfire out of the crankcase. Ron

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Re: Oil blowing out of breather [Re: challengermike] #1704045
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You can get a twist in pcv valve that looks like a breather, autoparts stores sell them or get a different grommet for the blockoff grommet you have on the pass side valve cover.



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