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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: AlexP]
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11/16/14 12:40 PM
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Here is a pic of the stock chain on the left vs. Manley on the right  The Manley looks beefier but is it really stronger? Stock chain is for stock applications but how is it for sustained high rpm use? Road racing for example? 
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: RylisPro]
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11/16/14 02:10 PM
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AlexP
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I thought all the Hemi stuff is Hecho en Mexico?
Most, but not all. It's all between USA, Germany and Mexico to the best of my knowledge.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: AlexP]
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11/16/14 02:17 PM
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From what I've seen is that the tensioner slides or the tensioner plate will break before the chain will.
Last edited by hemidup; 11/16/14 02:18 PM.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: hemidup]
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11/16/14 02:19 PM
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From what I've seen is that the tensioner slides or the tensioner plate will break before the chain will.
I've seen the same. Mostly on 5.7 backing plates. One of our 392's for a shop car had a broken tensioner plate and the nylon portion just fell into the oil pan. That was so incredibly lucky.
BTW Jerry...I called the shop the other day to ask you a question and the guys told me you retired? 
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: hemidup]
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11/16/14 03:16 PM
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I would use stock or Crower. I just put a brand new $91 Mopar set in my build.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: RylisPro]
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11/17/14 08:21 PM
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There's a guy in Oz who patented the Rollmaster timing gear set - he had exclusive rights to the aftermarket use of IWIS chains used in BMW/Benz etc...
India and China are always sending him chains to test, claiming they will be as good as the IWIS.
SO FAR..NONE HAVE BEEN.
67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: Moparmal]
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11/17/14 08:43 PM
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Stock 6.1 chain works fine for me
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: hemidup]
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11/24/14 07:28 PM
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From what I've seen is that the tensioner slides or the tensioner plate will break before the chain will.
That is my understanding as well. The guide plate or the tensioner. I had the recall performed on my 2009 Challenger R/T. They changed everything (guide, tensioner, chain).
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: 440Jim]
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11/25/14 01:10 AM
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To my knowledge, The tensioner on the double roller sets only covers the first row of links, not both (the tensioner is the same size as the factory 6.1 piece). To me that is somewhat of a disadvantage. If someone made a beefier tensioner that was large enough for both links to ride on I would be interested. Until then I like the factory tried and true. Not to mention most of the fast modern Hemi guys run factory timing set.
Someone correct me if I am wrong on the tensioner being the same between single and double rollers please
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-'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi timing chain?
[Re: RylisPro]
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11/25/14 06:26 AM
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I also installed a double roller, don't remeber the brand, but also had to grind the timing cover for clearance for the cam position sensor wheel.
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