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Fast Ratio pit and idler arms #1694423 11/04/14 04:59 PM 11/04/14 04:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 34 So-Cal I IB-CUDA OP member
IB-CUDA OP member I Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 34 So-Cal	Hi Guy's, I have the Firm Feel fast ratio arms. I want to run some Doug headers with my 70 cuda (383 auto) Does anyone know if they will clear?

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: IB-CUDA] #1694424 11/04/14 05:08 PM 11/04/14 05:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal	I thought the Firm Feel website has a list of headers that will fit?

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: autoxcuda] #1694425 11/04/14 05:28 PM 11/04/14 05:28 PM
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IB-CUDA OP member I Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 34 So-Cal	They Do and dougs isn't listed. I called Dick at F.F and he suggested I post. Thx

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: IB-CUDA] #1694426 11/04/14 07:29 PM 11/04/14 07:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona	MY FF idler arm barely misses the pasenger side exhaust. I'm running a TT stock exhaust. I have to take the grease zerk off to keep it from hitting. 71 RR/ 452 big block

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: dart4forte] #1694427 11/05/14 04:11 AM 11/05/14 04:11 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	i thought I remember reading somewhere that the dougs do hit, hopefully someone can chime in who owns them

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: dangina] #1694428 11/05/14 05:16 AM 11/05/14 05:16 AM
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Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Not sure if it helps, but in my 70 Charger, I run the 2" TTI headers on my 440/493. The TTI instructions state that the FR arms will NOT clear, yet they do by 3/8" or more.

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: Kern Dog] #1694429 11/05/14 05:08 PM 11/05/14 05:08 PM
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IB-CUDA OP member I Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 34 So-Cal	Bump.. Sure hoping somebody out has tried Dougs on a Big block E-body

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: IB-CUDA] #1694430 11/09/14 09:42 PM 11/09/14 09:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,161 Los Angeles, CA JF_Moparts super stock
JF_Moparts super stock Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,161 Los Angeles, CA	This might be helpful or not, but I have the fast ratio arms on my 71 Satellite 340 and I run the Hedman block hugger headers. They output in front of the centerlink so you then have to route the exhaust over the steering linkage and out. It's a little bit of a pain but it's worked for me for the past 8 years. Link to the big block version: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-78076/applications/make/plymouth?prefilter=1 Edit: Looking at the picture of the big block headers, they curve a bit to the back, unlike the small block ones. It still looks like it would clear, but I don't know for sure.

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: IB-CUDA] #1694431 11/10/14 06:21 PM 11/10/14 06:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,042 MD RTSE4ME top fuel
RTSE4ME top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,042 MD	Quote: Bump.. Sure hoping somebody out has tried Dougs on a Big block E-body I have had a few different headers(1 3/4 & 2") on my Challenger 440/505 and they all cleared. Seems that most 1 3/4 headers are designed with similar tube routing. Currently I have 2" TTI's and I have tons of room. A buddy of mine has 1 7/8 TTI's in a BB cuda and no way those would clear. I am assuming you are looking at 1 3/4" headers?

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: IB-CUDA] #1694432 11/11/14 03:17 PM 11/11/14 03:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 661 Iowa J jon01 mopar
jon01 mopar J Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 661 Iowa	Quote: Bump.. Sure hoping somebody out has tried Dougs on a Big block E-body I scoured for the same info for B-bodies with Doug's 2" primaries. Dick said he'd ship me a set, if they fit cool, if not, don't beat them up trying them on and he'd take them back. Maybe ask him if he'd do the same for you?

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: jon01] #1694433 11/11/14 04:05 PM 11/11/14 04:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal	Quote: Quote: Bump.. Sure hoping somebody out has tried Dougs on a Big block E-body I scoured for the same info for B-bodies with Doug's 2" primaries. Dick said he'd ship me a set, if they fit cool, if not, don't beat them up trying them on and he'd take them back. Maybe ask him if he'd do the same for you? Did Dougs with 2" primary and B-body work for you? What year B-body? What motor? Raised block (440,413, etc) OR low deck (383, 400, etc)? How much clearance at Idler and Pitman. An E-body should be extremely close to same clearance there. The K-members are interchangeable for function.

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: RTSE4ME] #1694434 11/11/14 05:34 PM 11/11/14 05:34 PM
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IB-CUDA OP member I Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 34 So-Cal	RTSE, when you tried the 1-3/4 headers you had F.F fast ratio arms on? If so could you tell me which one's worked for you, and these were above the steering link type correct? FYI I spoke to a tech guy at Pertronix (dougs) and he said no-way they would fit. that they barely fit a normal pitman /idler arm. But you know how it is with tech guys on the phone.....

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: IB-CUDA] #1694435 11/12/14 01:31 PM 11/12/14 01:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,042 MD RTSE4ME top fuel
RTSE4ME top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,042 MD	Yes, the fast ratio arms were installed. Both sets were above the linkage. One set were hedmans. The other set I have no idea. They were an old set I used for engine break in. The tube routing was identical only difference that I could tell was flange thickness. I would bet doug's would fit but it is not my money. Firm Feel lists on their website that 2" tti's don't fit but they have more clearance than any header I have seen.

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: RTSE4ME] #1694436 11/13/14 03:43 AM 11/13/14 03:43 AM
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IB-CUDA OP member I Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 34 So-Cal	Thx RTSE for the info. Definently gives me a better feeling on which way to go here.

Re: Fast Ratio pit and idler arms [Re: autoxcuda] #1694437 11/24/14 02:30 PM 11/24/14 02:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 661 Iowa J jon01 mopar
jon01 mopar J Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 661 Iowa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Bump.. Sure hoping somebody out has tried Dougs on a Big block E-body I scoured for the same info for B-bodies with Doug's 2" primaries. Dick said he'd ship me a set, if they fit cool, if not, don't beat them up trying them on and he'd take them back. Maybe ask him if he'd do the same for you? Did Dougs with 2" primary and B-body work for you? What year B-body? What motor? Raised block (440,413, etc) OR low deck (383, 400, etc)? How much clearance at Idler and Pitman. An E-body should be extremely close to same clearance there. The K-members are interchangeable for function. Sorry, just saw this. I decided to go with a FR box and stick with the stock arms. 68 Charger R/T - #'s matching car, 499/727/3.91

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