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340's Rule, 360's Drool !! #1692790
10/31/14 12:19 PM
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Pull this topic out of mothballs!! This is an oldie but goodie topic that used to get plenty of blood boiling!! 340 based Small Blocks will always reign supreme as the Tru HiPo Small Block, Where as the 360 based Small Blocks were nothing but 340 Wannabe's!!

Let the fight begin!!

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: STEFF] #1692791
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You either have a 340 or want a 340.

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: STEFF] #1692792
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Pull this topic out of mothballs!! This is an oldie but goodie topic that used to get plenty of blood boiling!! 340 based Small Blocks will always reign supreme as the Tru HiPo Small Block, Where as the 360 based Small Blocks were nothing but 340 Wannabe's!!

Let the fight begin!!




Where does the Gen III fit in? lol

Steff you have a pm

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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1692793
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What if you have both?


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: herkamer] #1692794
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There's nothing magical about a 340. I'd rather start with a 360. More plentiful, less expensive. 20 more cubes is a bonus.


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: DusterDave] #1692795
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If the 340 was so great why did Mopar can it and continue building the 360 in the middle 70s...?


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: DusterDave] #1692796
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There's nothing magical about a 340. I'd rather start with a 360. More plentiful, less expensive. 20 more cubes is a bonus.




Put a 4" stroke in a 340 and 360 and which is bigger now???


Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: DusterDave] #1692797
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Twenty more cubes and a longer stroke. Simple as that. If you intend to stroke it the 340/360 debate is a moot point. So says this 340 owner.

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: 70AARcuda] #1692798
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If the 340 was so great why did Mopar can it and continue building the 360 in the middle 70s...?




I'm not siding with the 340, but it's my understanding that it was discontinued in favor of the 360 for emissions reasons. Smaller bore produced less emissions with a more complete burn.

'73 340 vs '74 360 is the best comparison. Only bore & stroke is different & 360 wins. Only other variables would be state of tune and the rest of the car. 340's do like a little more gear, but I can't see that being a dominant factor.

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: STEFF] #1692799
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360s belong in vans and 340s in muscle cars is the way I see it.

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: Challenger 1] #1692800
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Gonna be a loooooong winter.

If the 360 ever came with a forged crank (production) it would be a total slamdunk.


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1692801
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I have 3 standard bore 340 blocks under the workbench. Haven't had the erge to collect 360's

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: 70AARcuda] #1692802
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If the 340 was so great why did Mopar can it and continue building the 360 in the middle 70s...?




Your going to have a mighty long list of stupid things mopar has done of you want to go there.


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: ademon] #1692803
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I have 3 standard bore 340 blocks under the workbench. Haven't had the erge to collect 360's




I have the same...the 340s I have collect dust while the 360s are being used for racing.

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: TheOtherDodge] #1692804
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I have 3 standard bore 340 blocks under the workbench. Haven't had the erge to collect 360's




I have the same...the 340s I have collect dust while the 360s are being used for racing.




I have more 360's vs 340's since they were given to me!


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1692805
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I would love to see someone bolt a bone stock hi-po 340 on a dyno with an air gap intake and TTI headers, then strap an air gap on a 360 magnum and the same TTI headers and watch the 360 make more power at EVERY RPM.

The 73 340 VS 74 360 is also a great example, when outfitted the same way the 360 puts the hurting on it real bad.

Also the 360 mag has a stronger block and a hydro roller cam you can get reground to a real nice cam under $100. How much does it cost to put any roller cam in a 340?

I have a real nice 71 340 with a fresh .030 bore job that I am gonna pass on building for my R/T Dak because I want to make 550-600 HP that will last a long time. It is a tough decesion because of the cubes I will give up but 8 cubes is nothing compared to a roller cam and a more solid block

The 360 wins in every case except a numbers matching gold restoration type build.


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1692806
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This topic is a failure unless we start considering the pinionangle.

Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1692807
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Until you sonic test a 340 and realize they can be paper thin!


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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: STEFF] #1692808
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But either one equipped with a long arm trumps them both,....
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Re: 340's Rule, 360's Drool !! [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1692809
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Until you sonic test a 340 and realize they can be paper thin!



ya my machinist said he likes to go .020 over on 340's if it will clean up at that.

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