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how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? #1687527
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curious on how much hp and torque the dana 60 style posi can handle?before a spool is needed?thanks

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: hp340nos] #1687528
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I have been 9.0's so far.

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: a493demon] #1687529
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what unit are you running 493 demon?

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: hp340nos] #1687530
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think the rear is out of a truck.
And it's the bolt together unit.

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: hp340nos] #1687531
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curious on how much hp and torque the dana 60 style posi can handle?before a spool is needed?thanks


It really depends on the size of the axles and traction The 30 spline and smaller axles will break before the posi unit will I raced my 1970 Hemi Cuda stick shift car(35 spline axles and stock clutch style Dana posi ) in NHRA stock a lot for 2 1/2 yrs with no problems BTW, those cars are really nose heavy stock so the traction is not the best with a clucth and nine inch tires

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Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: hp340nos] #1687532
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curious on how much hp and torque the dana 60 style posi can handle?before a spool is needed?thanks




Which Dana 60 SURE GRIP , there are 2 types ????

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: JohnRR] #1687533
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What Cab said. It's about the axles at your stage. Since you stated the sure grip bolts together that's a power loc -- the stronger of the two

I don't know what Chevy used for d60's - dodge used 30 spline axles and ford used 16 spline and then later 30 spline
The side gears can be changed so if you want to step up to 35 the gears aren't terribly expensive
My truck 60 had a 30 spline trac loc and I would estimate that 450 hp would be max on that unit. ( depending on weight and traction)
I've since sold the traclock and bought a power lock from a older ford - swapped the side gears to 30 spline and plan to use my 8 3/4 axles. My car will eventually be in the 500-600 hp range and I feel safe at that level in my 3500 lb b body. I am sure that with 35 spline aftermarket axles you can raise that measurably but I'm not experienced at that level


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Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: hp340nos] #1687534
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I had that same unit go bad on me at the track, turned into a one wheel wonder. I cut a shim out of a 3 pound coffee can bottom and that locked the posi solid, ran it that way for a couple years


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curious on how much hp and torque the dana 60 style posi can handle?before a spool is needed?thanks



We've been mid 9's @ 3850lbs. Guessing 850 ish Hp and maybe a little over 700ft/lb Ours was a bolt together powerloc. After the Crown wheel and pinion recently let go, (12 year old 4:10 street gears), we've recently swapped over to a detroit locker and pro gears for the new motor (Dyno'd @ 1048hp and 950ft/lb) I don't really want to use a spool if I can help it. The powerloc was rebuilt and now resides in a buddies '62 pro street Impala running low 10's

EDIT: BTW car has 35 spline axles, 10.5 tyre and is footbraked.

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Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: NTOLERANCE] #1687536
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What Cab said. It's about the axles at your stage. Since you stated the sure grip bolts together that's a power loc -- the stronger of the two

I don't know what Chevy used for d60's - dodge used 30 spline axles and ford used 16 spline and then later 30 spline
The side gears can be changed so if you want to step up to 35 the gears aren't terribly expensive
My truck 60 had a 30 spline trac loc and I would estimate that 450 hp would be max on that unit. ( depending on weight and traction)
I've since sold the traclock and bought a power lock from a older ford - swapped the side gears to 30 spline and plan to use my 8 3/4 axles. My car will eventually be in the 500-600 hp range and I feel safe at that level in my 3500 lb b body. I am sure that with 35 spline aftermarket axles you can raise that measurably but I'm not experienced at that level




When you say you can change the side gears to accept a 35 spline axle, would it be the same diameter 35 spline axle that might go into a spool? If I remember right a 35 spline axle, at least for an 8 3/4, meant for a spool is considerably thicker.

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I am glad to see someone ask this question, as I am curious myself!?
The D60 in my car is from a Ford truck. It was an open rear with 4.11 gears, so I bought a rebuilt sure grip from my chassis man, and he ordered the 35 spline axles for me.
I don't know which unit I have, but he said it is the stronger one.
We only have 15 runs on the car, but it is working fine thus far.

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Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: Sixpak] #1687538
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What Cab said. It's about the axles at your stage. Since you stated the sure grip bolts together that's a power loc -- the stronger of the two

I don't know what Chevy used for d60's - dodge used 30 spline axles and ford used 16 spline and then later 30 spline
The side gears can be changed so if you want to step up to 35 the gears aren't terribly expensive
My truck 60 had a 30 spline trac loc and I would estimate that 450 hp would be max on that unit. ( depending on weight and traction)
I've since sold the traclock and bought a power lock from a older ford - swapped the side gears to 30 spline and plan to use my 8 3/4 axles. My car will eventually be in the 500-600 hp range and I feel safe at that level in my 3500 lb b body. I am sure that with 35 spline aftermarket axles you can raise that measurably but I'm not experienced at that level




When you say you can change the side gears to accept a 35 spline axle, would it be the same diameter 35 spline axle that might go into a spool? If I remember right a 35 spline axle, at least for an 8 3/4, meant for a spool is considerably thicker.




I cant speak for 8 3/4 35 spline axle but typically yes, 35 spline is 35 spline for D60.
Here is an ebay link to the side kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dana-60-clutch-p...9cf&vxp=mtr

You might Want to check with Cass (Dr Diff) as I am sure he would have the exact kit youd need for 35 spline. Plus a host of other parts, needed to convert a truck 60 axle to a car.

Edit - forgot to mention that Ebay auction is Cass' listing.


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Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: hp340nos] #1687539
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I think member 572charger still has the factory suregrip (powerlock) in his '68 charger that runs 8.90s at 3900#.

The powerlock (bolt together unit) is the stronger of the 2...the other being the tracklock. The powerlock is physically bigger, much bigger and heavier, than a tracklock. The tracklock kinda looks like an open diff. at first glance.

Dr. Diff has the kit needed to convert a powerlock over to 35 spline. I used one when I converted a truck Dana for my dad's '69 road runner. Very nice kit and easy to do.


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I think the power-loc will last longer than the ring and pinion.

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: cudaman1969] #1687541
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chip is right i ran many low 9 sec and high8 sec passes on the stock posi unit , 1968 charger rear they are strong i had to put axles in it to comply with NHRA we put it in my buddys car and i got a complete moser with a spool now !!! [ did not want to break it its still in a 10 second car with 4 spd !!!!!


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do you guys run just synthetic lube or do you add limited slip

just wondering if it's necessary for a powerloc

my car is still a couple months from finish

Re: how strong are the dana 60 posi factory posi units? [Re: 74yellowduster] #1687543
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I use standard gear lube with the Mopar additive.


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