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C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) #1680139
09/30/14 12:56 AM
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I have a one-piece tilt front end on my Road Runner so the only thing out there (past the firewall) is frame rails and engine. Once I tilt that front end up, I want a CLEAN look.

I know I'm not the first to want and build a CLEAN engine bay look with the "none-to-minimal life support" appearance, so I appreciate any Photos, Tips, Advice, Suggestions, I can get from everyone here!

All that will be out there (without inner fenders) will be engine and radiator. No PS, No PB, No trans lines, etc.

Oddly enough, 10-point cage and all, I kept the heater core so I can drive it in the winter - and keep a little warm and keep the windows clear, so I'll need the heater hoses to stay.

I plan on the following components on the engine:
-- Mopar electronic ignition
-- MSD coil (and tach wire)
-- Denso 1-wire alternator
-- Water temp

So I need to "hide" - or cleanly mount/route the following:
-- Electronic ignition box
-- Windshield washer reservoir (need ideas for container)
-- Heater hoses
-- Water temp sensor line

My objective here is to eliminate (as in magic) the appearance of any life support to the engine. Thanks to all for any advice or suggestions you can throw my way!

Lastly - excuse the beat up Direct Connection valve covers in the second picture below; they are temp covers for engine break-in while I modify my Mopar Performance ones!



(Hensley Performance built engine; http://www.hensleyperformance.com )



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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680140
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Oddly enough, 10-point cage and all, I kept the heater core so I can drive it in the winter - and keep a little warm and keep the windows clear, so I'll need the heater hoses to stay.





I was racing until almost midnight on Saturday when it got cold and slightly foggy...and was very thankful to have the heater/defrost in my car, so I don't blame you for this one bit.

Can't help you much, but we have mounted the ignition box inside the car to hide it and keep it away from moisture/engine heat.

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680141
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Well being your a BB that helps with the wires in
front... you can run your heater hoses down off the
housing then jump to the frame to the fire wall... you
can also run a smaller heater hose with the electrical
wires in it and have it end right near the others on
the engine then run to the coil(mounted low) and to
the alt.. have the reg mounted on the rad yoke down
low... keep all 3 hoses together to look clean

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680142
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So I need to "hide" - or cleanly mount/route the following:
-- Electronic ignition box
-- Windshield washer reservoir (need ideas for container)
-- Heater hoses
-- Water temp sensor line






I have always toyed with the idea of using an old speaker-mount rear window defroster for the windshield...but that is neither here nor there.

I would mount the ign under the dash. I ran all my wires for ignition/alternator down the passenger side frame rail, then have the harness coming across at the alternator. But I have a bit more room down there without the mech fuel pump. I would fab the heater lines out of SS tubing and also route them along the frame rail.

You could fab a small reservoir for the washer fluid, but I am not sure there is a clever way to hide the plumbing up to the cowl.

The problem with hiding everything, is it makes it a nightmare to work on. I would almost be tempted to mount/route everything out of the way, then make a cover, paint it, and no one will no the difference.

I don't mind seeing the inner workings, but this is cleaned up a bit compared to stock.

and I'd totally keep the DC valve covers!

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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680143
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I mounted the ign. box inside, coil is inside the pass. side motor mount. wiring on the engine side of the frame rail. We put a plug in disconnect for the dog house wiring to make that easily removable. A low mounted alt. would help hide things even better.
This is the only pic. I have on this computer.

Mark

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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680144
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Did that car come out of Maryland? If so I know the guy that built it.

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680145
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You can route the wires and waterhoses under the intake. You can use the rear valley pan bolts for holding relays and ignition box etc., if you bolt them on a flat plate; there should be some room behind the intake. My

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680146
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I would lose the notion of running an MP ignition box and go with a ready to run distributor that has the electronics inside it, or use an MSD box and mount it under the dash.

as someone else said you can run the engine wires along the engine and you can run your headlight wiring along the framerail and up to the pivot point of the nose.

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680147
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Another pic,
You can see where the harness goes to the inside of the frame. The coil and ignition are Crane items.

Mark



1996 Ram 1500 Sport
1968 road runner
1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019
Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1680148
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I ran my wiring through the right frame rail right behind the motor plate mount. The starter wiring has a bulkhead that bolts through the firewall.
Doug

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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: dvw] #1680149
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Mine still in progress....


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: dvw] #1680150
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With motor installed.

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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: dvw] #1680151
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MSD box is mounted inside with access to the rev limiter and two-step through the glove box door. Wires are tucked up under the pinch weld on the firewall and then under the passenger side down bar to the distributor, alternator, ect. Fuel line feeding the regulator and the return line are plumb through the wheelwell.

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: OUTLAWD] #1680152
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So I need to "hide" - or cleanly mount/route the following:
-- Electronic ignition box
-- Windshield washer reservoir (need ideas for container)
-- Heater hoses
-- Water temp sensor line






I would mount the ign under the dash. I ran all my wires for ignition/alternator down the passenger side frame rail, then have the harness coming across at the alternator. But I have a bit more room down there without the mech fuel pump. I would fab the heater lines out of SS tubing and also route them along the frame rail.

I would almost be tempted to mount/route everything out of the way, then make a cover, paint it, and no one will no the difference.

I don't mind seeing the inner workings, but this is cleaned up a bit compared to stock.

and I'd totally keep the DC valve covers!




I love the way you did your heater hoses! Thanks for all these ideas, I'll keep them in mind as I fab!

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1680153
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I mounted the ign. box inside, coil is inside the pass. side motor mount. wiring on the engine side of the frame rail. We put a plug in disconnect for the dog house wiring to make that easily removable. A low mounted alt. would help hide things even better.
This is the only pic. I have on this computer.

Mark




Nice and clean! Thanks - I like the coil mounted down there.

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: dvw] #1680154
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I ran my wiring through the right frame rail right behind the motor plate mount. The starter wiring has a bulkhead that bolts through the firewall.
Doug




AWESOME idea with the bulkhead for the starter!

Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680155
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Thanks, in hindsight it would have been better to mount them out of the way...Let's just say the are hot when you reach under the hood


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66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680156
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I ran my wiring through the right frame rail right behind the motor plate mount. The starter wiring has a bulkhead that bolts through the firewall.
Doug




AWESOME idea with the bulkhead for the starter!



They're less than $10 from Speedway Automotive. I used a 2nd one inside as well.
Doug

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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: WyleECoyote] #1680157
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This work for you?





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Re: C.L.E.A.N. Engine Bay (hidden wires & components) [Re: Dragula] #1680158
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This work for you?








YES. Nice!!

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