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Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1667938
10/12/14 02:24 PM
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have you looked into a NV4500 5 speed swap?




Thanks, but I prefer driving an automatic transmission.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: Kern Dog] #1667939
10/13/14 11:02 AM
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you are just be lazy with the auto trans.

I can see your point though. I was thinking more of the gear ratio split from granny to 2nd you mentioned you did not like granny as it seemd to low and 2nd was a little to high to pull off from a stop all the time...this does make driving one a chore and gets old. But when it is geared just right it is a breeze and better mpg for a 4x4 IMHO.

mine was a blast in low range 3rd gear 6200 rpm turning 4.56 gears and 17/40/15 hawgs in the mud pit up to door handles.

BUT my auto never would wind up fast enough and did not spit u-joints like the 5 speed did either.they do indeed have their pros and cons.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1667940
10/14/14 12:12 AM
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I should also mention that I do a lot of stuff around the yard with the truck, getting in and out frequently. The parking brake sucks, so the truck wants to roll. The "Park" feature is quite handy for what I do.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: Kern Dog] #1667941
10/14/14 10:41 AM
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another pro for auto

that is not being lazy, that would be being safe.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1667942
10/14/14 02:10 PM
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To swap to auto from manual, don't forget to change the radiator (no trans cooler in a manual truck radiator) and run the trans lines to and from the radiatior. You can use an aftermarket floor shifter so that you don't have to swap the steering column for a column shifter, pretty easy.

Keep the NP203, nothing wrong with it and the best Fulltime 4wd case from the '70s, by far (I currently have two of them).

I have an extra BB auto 4wd truck that I'd like to sell, as well, but I'm in IA and probably a little far for you...although it would have all the necessary parts for your swap...

JS


76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red
06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II
06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi
10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI
11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red
16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: AdventurerSport] #1667943
10/14/14 02:35 PM
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No need to swap radiator just get a trans cooler. I've swapped in a stick Rad in an auto truck and used an trans cooler. No issues.

Got pics of the truck? I'm just down the road

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Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1667944
10/14/14 10:45 PM
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"Got pics of the truck?"

Sure...

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Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: Kern Dog] #1667945
10/14/14 10:48 PM
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I still need to add the yellow stripes to complete the "Macho" look.

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Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: Kern Dog] #1667946
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Looks outta my price range

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: Kern Dog] #1667947
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I still need to add the yellow stripes to complete the "Macho" look.




SSWWWEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!

I would have some 17/40/15 ground hawgs under that thing bustin sod.

whats the hold up on the yellow stripe?

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1667948
10/15/14 10:11 PM
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Looks outta my price range




Why....cause it's rust free and it runs?

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: 77ProStreet] #1667949
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Looks outta my price range




Why....cause it's rust free and it runs?




That would be my story, except the I would have to add: Its got shinny paint too.

I have a hard time understanding that "rust free" statement. Around here "rust free" means they are not charging any extra for the rust that is there. "Rust free" and "free rust" pretty much mean the same thing, in my world. Gene

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: poorboy] #1667950
10/15/14 11:45 PM
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No rust at all on this truck...the oil leaks provided a nice corrosion resistance!
Kidding, of course.
The yellow stripe kit is being reproduced. I do want to get the kit but I've really spread myself thin with all of the projects here. I don't list my cars or trucks, but along with this 75 PW, I also have a 78 Trail Duster, a 2007 Ram 1500, a 65 Barracuda, a 67 Dart GT, a 71 Duster, 73 Swinger, 74 Duster 360 and this:

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Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: 77ProStreet] #1667951
10/16/14 04:00 AM
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Looks outta my price range




Why....cause it's rust free and it runs?



Funny.wasn't the truck I was asking about anyway. But in Iowa if it Doesn't have rust it cost more.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 speed to 727 ideas [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1667952
10/16/14 08:30 PM
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In Iowa, if it doesn't have rust it's A) been restored, or B) it's not from Iowa!

JS


76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red
06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II
06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi
10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI
11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red
16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: Not sure I like the 4 speed [Re: hp383] #1667953
10/16/14 09:49 PM
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I painted the truck here in my garage. part of the reason that I've yet to install the "Macho" stripes is that I'd want to cut and buff the paint beforehand.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 sp to 727 : Donor Vehicles? [Re: Kern Dog] #1667954
10/22/14 10:26 PM
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I am not too familiar with the correct years that I should look for in regards to a donor transmission. I have a good passenger car BB 727 so I'll be on the lookout for a 4x4 trans to get the tailshaft and other associated parts to swap. I know I'll need a trans that fits my 203 Full time case. I guess I could just look at the front end of the trucks, making sure they would have that large nut instead of a part time hub. The local yards out here have an online inventory list and even though it is often innacurrate, it does help some.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 sp to 727 : Donor Vehicles? [Re: Kern Dog] #1667955
10/23/14 09:24 PM
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If you were closer We could do some horse trading

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 sp to 727 : Donor Vehicles? [Re: Kern Dog] #1667956
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75-79 4wd's were all fulltime so that's what you will be looking for.

Re: 75 440 Power Wagon: 4 sp to 727 : Donor Vehicles? [Re: CTD5.9] #1667957
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you only need the tailhousing/main shaft off any 727 small or big block----you already have the hard part---the big block case..... bob

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