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Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 68shifter] #1664973 08/29/14 02:34 PM 08/29/14 02:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,504 DFW M mr_340 master
mr_340 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,504 DFW	I wish Chrysler would submit all the specs for the production Challengers. It took them several years to get the 5.7L and 6.1L engines in the Classification Guide for the non-DP Challengers. I think they could put the V6s in there in case someone wants to run lower classes. As for the Hellcat, SS/AAA has a weight break of 5.0 pounds per HP. That would make the car weigh 3535 pounds. I bet that the production Hellcat Challenger can get down to that weight. I'm not sure there is value in putting that engine in the DP.

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 68shifter] #1664974 08/29/14 02:37 PM 08/29/14 02:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	According to HRM it is getting the HellCat.. based on info last night

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: sixpackgut] #1664975 08/29/14 02:37 PM 08/29/14 02:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,645 Stuttgart, Arkansas rickseeman master
rickseeman master Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,645 Stuttgart, Arkansas	Quote: Quote: This. Even has "drag pak" headers on it. Oh My God! Drool!!!!!! where can you get this? I had to fix the pic because it was hurting my neck what gears come in those cars? That's what I'm talking about! 2011 Drag Pak Challenger

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: mr_340] #1664976 08/29/14 02:48 PM 08/29/14 02:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,645 Stuttgart, Arkansas rickseeman master
rickseeman master Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,645 Stuttgart, Arkansas	Quote: I'm not sure there is value in putting that engine in the DP. I guess that depends if you like Ford and Chevy making faster cars than us. 2011 Drag Pak Challenger

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: rickseeman] #1664977 08/29/14 03:29 PM 08/29/14 03:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,504 DFW M mr_340 master
mr_340 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,504 DFW	Rick, I've seen your posts on Classracer and seem to remember you are a long time Stock or SS racer, so I will go with your opinion. There was a Ford Cobra in the Classification Guides for years at 4.XX pounds per HP. Until they added the new weight breaks, it never had a place to race. If they put a Hellcat in a DP, where does it fit. They still have to get down to the minimum weight for SS/AAA. Is there an advantage of the DP over the non-DP Challengers with the same weight and engine combo? I think both can run the same rear axle and suspension. Maybe the non-DP has to run the 6-speed manual or 8-speed automatic. I did see where one of the Moosetangs ran a 7.9x run at Indy. I can't remember if that was Stock or SS. Got to be quicker than that then.

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: mr_340] #1664978 08/29/14 03:33 PM 08/29/14 03:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	68Shifter, where did you see that engine? Where can i get the valve covers? What supercharger is that? Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: sixpackgut] #1664979 08/29/14 03:48 PM 08/29/14 03:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,169 MI 6 68shifter super stock
68shifter super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,169 MI	It's sitting at the Mopar booth here at Indy. Right behind the DP car. I saw it yesterday but they wouldn't take the cover off. Whipple charger and who knows on the covers. It has several one off pieces on it. The guys around it don't know much. Probably a good job on mopar to stir the pot.

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 68shifter] #1664980 08/29/14 03:53 PM 08/29/14 03:53 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: It's sitting at the Mopar booth here at Indy. Right behind the DP car. I saw it yesterday but they wouldn't take the cover off. Whipple charger and who knows on the covers. It has several one off pieces on it. The guys around it don't know much. Probably a good job on mopar to stir the pot. If you can sneak it out, i will give you good money for it Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: sixpackgut] #1664981 08/29/14 03:56 PM 08/29/14 03:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,169 MI 6 68shifter super stock
68shifter super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,169 MI	Haha. Wish I could. BTW P.B. Candies just went 7.85 for the fastest ever SS run. In muggy, hot, wet air.

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 68shifter] #1664982 08/29/14 04:11 PM 08/29/14 04:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	http://blogs.hotrod.com/hellcat-engine-f...6#axzz3BnWagElN Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 72Swinger] #1664983 08/29/14 10:27 PM 08/29/14 10:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	Quote: Barton already is .4 quicker than his nearest COPO Camaro. We already have the N/A bragging rights, its just a matter of time for the supercharged. Hmmmmm Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed 1990 David Barton 335X Dave Connolly C3 0.077 8.940 149.22 **WINNER** 0.006 8.987 143.23

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: sixpackgut] #1664984 08/29/14 10:40 PM 08/29/14 10:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	Quote: Quote: This. Even has "drag pak" headers on it. Oh My God! Drool!!!!!! where can you get this? I had to fix the pic because it was hurting my neck what gears come in those cars? [/quote And I thought gen 3 were ugly. Guess I was wrong. Doug

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: dvw] #1664985 08/29/14 11:05 PM 08/29/14 11:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 190 Winterpeg, Canada H hvyweight member
hvyweight member H Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 190 Winterpeg, Canada	Hopefully this will get Mopar on board to build a serious block that can handle big power for my 25.3 2010 Challenger! Then my last piece of the puzzle could be committed to.

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: cudadoug] #1664986 08/30/14 12:16 AM 08/30/14 12:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: Quote: Barton already is .4 quicker than his nearest COPO Camaro. We already have the N/A bragging rights, its just a matter of time for the supercharged. Hmmmmm Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed 1990 David Barton 335X Dave Connolly C3 0.077 8.940 149.22 **WINNER** 0.006 8.987 143.23 Ok so they are catching up? Last spring he went 8.76. Also wouldnt be suprised if the Bowtie babies caught a break from NHRA. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 72Swinger] #1664987 08/30/14 03:20 AM 08/30/14 03:20 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	I wouldn't kick it out of bed for leaving tire marks.......

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 72Swinger] #1664988 08/31/14 02:41 PM 08/31/14 02:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Barton already is .4 quicker than his nearest COPO Camaro. We already have the N/A bragging rights, its just a matter of time for the supercharged. Hmmmmm Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed 1990 David Barton 335X Dave Connolly C3 0.077 8.940 149.22 **WINNER** 0.006 8.987 143.23 Ok so they are catching up? Last spring he went 8.76. Also wouldnt be suprised if the Bowtie babies caught a break from NHRA. They did! Before Indy they were allowed to run a bigger throttle body, larger valves and a bigger cam. Of course that is nothing new for NHRA. Just like it was in the past and is also now in pro-stock bike (HD's getting more displacement, etc than the Suzuki's). In any event, I wasn't disappointed to see Connolly get beat in the final of FS/B on Saturday at Chevrolet's sponsored event!!!! This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: bwdst6] #1664989 08/31/14 08:36 PM 08/31/14 08:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Well there ya have it. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: MOPAR UNVEILS 2015 DRAG PAK CHALLENGER [Re: 72Swinger] #1664990 08/31/14 11:57 PM 08/31/14 11:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 287 Michigan S SC304 enthusiast
SC304 enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 287 Michigan	When this car and motor combo were unveiled Thursday night at Indy they stated they would build 50 2015 models. Some will be NA and some blown. I asked if the Blown parts were going to be available for those of us who wanted to build cars and motors and the comment was yes. The valve covers are billet pcs which are not quite available yet. The Hellcat motor will be built at 354 cubic inches. It has to stay in line with the Ford and Chevys. The HP factor has not been agreed upon between NHRA and Chrysler. Nor has the shipping weight. They plan on buildingn them this fall. Lastly the Hellcat in its racing version will vary from the production / street version. That's all for now

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