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MP torsion bars available again? #1663763 08/26/14 09:03 AM 08/26/14 09:03 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria DGS OP mopar
DGS OP mopar Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria	Are these torsion bars available again? .960" 165 lb/in P5249158 H.D V8 Handling 1.000" 180 lb/in P5249159 Solo & Road Racing 1.120" 250 lb/in P5249160 H.D. Solo & Road + 1/4,1/2 oval 1.160" 300 lb/in P5249161 Circle Track 1.220" 350 lb/in P5249162 Circle Track I googled the part numbers and two site have them for sale: tascaparts.com and moparamerica.com Are these scam sites? They don't look fake though..telephone number, ebay store, real address... What do you think?

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: DGS] #1663764 08/26/14 10:41 AM 08/26/14 10:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Go to Firm Feel and buy his bars. He offers similar sizes and can make one-offs too. .820 DIA. Drag Racing App. (WR 72) TBB11.....$355 .880 DIA. Stock App. (WR 101) TBB12.....$330 .940 DIA. Stock HP/Police App. (WR 142) TBB13.....$330 1.00 DIA. HD/Street App. (WR 175) TBB14.....$335 1.06 DIA. HD/Race App. (WR 225) TBB15.....$355 1.12 DIA. Race App. (WR 270) TBB16.....$360 1.18 DIA. Race App. (WR 338) TBB17.....$375 We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: feets] #1663765 08/26/14 10:45 AM 08/26/14 10:45 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria DGS OP mopar
DGS OP mopar Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria	I know the FF option but the MP bars are way cheaper - check this out:

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: DGS] #1663766 08/26/14 11:56 AM 08/26/14 11:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Interesting. They also seem to list the A-body bars. I've just shot them an email with inquiry for the A-body 1.09" and 1.14" bars, p52491554/P5249155. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1663767 08/26/14 12:30 PM 08/26/14 12:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Just got a (to be expected) reply; - They're not available. 'Extended back order from Mopar'. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1663768 08/26/14 12:55 PM 08/26/14 12:55 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria DGS OP mopar
DGS OP mopar Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria	I knew it seemed too good to be true.. what's up with listing stuff that's been gone for quite a while?

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1663769 08/26/14 12:57 PM 08/26/14 12:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,644 North Carolina sasquatch master
sasquatch master Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,644 North Carolina	They are smoking something. The only bars available on that list are the P5249158s the rest were discontinued years ago. Yes they are in stock at the moment. Todd www.mopartsracing.com

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: sasquatch] #1663770 08/26/14 03:25 PM 08/26/14 03:25 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA Dan@Hotchkis super stock
Dan@Hotchkis super stock Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA	I got all excited. Credit Card ready and everything. Those prices are cheaper than I get mine for!

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1663771 08/26/14 03:38 PM 08/26/14 03:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 321 Massachusetts S Sneke_Eyez enthusiast
Sneke_Eyez enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 321 Massachusetts	Hmm, Tasca is usually good people, too. Bummer that they've got them up even though you can't get them. 1969 Satellite Wagon - G3 Hemi Swap Incoming. \| 1969 Coronet Post Coupe. 2002 Intrepid ES \| 2009 Ram SLT \| 2004 300M Special \| 2002 300M Pro Am - Hers Are you a New England Mopar Enthusiast? Come check out the revived NorthEast Mighty Mopar at www.northeastmightymopar.com!

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: DGS] #1663772 08/26/14 04:23 PM 08/26/14 04:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Quote: I knew it seemed too good to be true.. what's up with listing stuff that's been gone for quite a while? Typical. They grab a catalog and upload everything in it. Many times they will not even check availability. When someone orders the part they check with their vendor and find out it isn't available. However, they will leave it on their site to draw in buyers. You find the awesome ad, put one in your "shopping cart" and surf their site for other stuff to save on shipping. Once you load up on other stuff and place the order they hope you'll buy the other stuff despite a back order. It's the sneaky and dirty way of making sales in the modern world. Think of it as bait and switch. It's EXTREMELY common when dealing with aftermarket wheels. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1663773 08/26/14 07:52 PM 08/26/14 07:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada brads70 super stock
brads70 super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada	Quote: I got all excited. Credit Card ready and everything. Ya me too, I'd get a few different sizes to try at that price!

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: brads70] #1663774 08/26/14 08:19 PM 08/26/14 08:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Just wondering... What kind of costs would be involved when you'd have a good number of say 1.25" bars forged up in rough form, only to be (CNC) machined, cut and ground down to a customers desired diameter, length and end clocking? 8252504-TorsionBars.jpg (224 downloads) BigBlockMopar.com

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: feets] #1663775 08/27/14 12:22 AM 08/27/14 12:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 240 Plano, Texas 6 68cuda440 enthusiast
68cuda440 enthusiast 6 Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 240 Plano, Texas	Quote: Typical. They grab a catalog and upload everything in it. Many times they will not even check availability. When someone orders the part they check with their vendor and find out it isn't available. Yep. Had to try it out. P3690982! $404! I'll buy two! -Michael 8252722-P3690982.jpg (206 downloads) Michael 1968 Barracuda Notchback Coupe 440 EFI 6-pack, T56 Magnum 6-spd

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1663776 08/27/14 03:04 AM 08/27/14 03:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Quote: Just wondering... What kind of costs would be involved when you'd have a good number of say 1.25" bars forged up in rough form, only to be (CNC) machined, cut and ground down to a customers desired diameter, length and end clocking? That could get pricey. You're talking about a grinder with a 1-1/2 meter range of movement. The bars would need to be larger than 1.25" in diameter. That measurement is across the flats, not the points. A forged bar would have to start out almost 2-1/2" in diameter and be machined down. It would likely be cold rolled. and you're talking about grinding away about 75% of the steel. The bar would likely need to be supported with a following rest during the machining to prevent sagging. Without that support the bar would be fatter in the middle. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1663777 08/27/14 01:41 PM 08/27/14 01:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country	Quote: Just wondering... What kind of costs would be involved when you'd have a good number of say 1.25" bars forged up in rough form, only to be (CNC) machined, cut and ground down to a customers desired diameter, length and end clocking? I dunno. Ask Dick Ross, he could probably answer that since he makes a lot of torsion bars. Or maybe these guys could answer it you; http://www.kdkforging.com/torsion_bars.php If I had to take a stab at it, I'd guess it costs about $75 per bar for a quantity run of 40-50 pieces. If you only want to make 3,4, or 5 pairs, it may be upward of $250-300 a bar.

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: TC@HP2] #1663778 08/27/14 03:09 PM 08/27/14 03:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	I can see a group buy coming on now! 1941 Taylorcraft 1968 Charger 1994 Wrangler 1998 Wrangler 2008 Kia Rio 2017 Jetta I didn't do 4 years and 9 months of Graduate School to be called Mister!

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: astjp2] #1663779 08/27/14 05:47 PM 08/27/14 05:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	I'll take some 1.20" A body bars. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: 72Swinger] #1663780 08/27/14 08:20 PM 08/27/14 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	I've got a set of JustSuspension 1" bars in my Dart now but I would be willing to upgrade to 1.12". Noticed JS has upped the price for the Abody bars with $50 since I got them last year. I wonder how long it would take before some China-made torsionbars hit the market for say $89.50 a set and a spare bar orso... ) BigBlockMopar.com

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1663781 08/28/14 04:12 AM 08/28/14 04:12 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria DGS OP mopar
DGS OP mopar Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 636 Graz, Austria	I would be in for any bar between 1.12 and 1.24 Was thinking the same thing about Chinese bars. There seems to be quite a big potential market for larger than stock and affordable bars. I know this hobby is expensive but c'mon torsion bars not much more than simple round steel bars - $350 for two steel bars is just too much in my eyes.

Re: MP torsion bars available again? [Re: DGS] #1663782 08/28/14 04:26 AM 08/28/14 04:26 AM
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