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Jeep Wrangler 4cyl to V6 or V8 swap #1662928
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looking at 98 jeep wrangler with a 4 cly, is there anything in the drive train that can still be used when swapping it out for a V6 or SB mopar? what about a gen3 hemi?

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Unless you drive it with a light foot, a decent V8 is going to put the axles on borrowed time, especially the notoriously weak-kneed Dana 35 rear axle. But then again, if you drive it with a light foot, there's no point in swapping to a V8 in the first place. Bottom line is, the trans, d-shafts, and at minimum the rear axle will need to be replaced. The NP231 transfer case can be kept, although I'd recommend rebuilding it with a wide chain kit, 6 pinion planetary and a SYE kit. These upgrades will beef it up to V8 level specs.
I have a Dana 44 rear axle with a new in the box disc brake kit for sale, if you're interested. I was planning on using it for my Wrangler, but in the 11th hour, decided to go with a 1 ton axle.


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Re: Jeep Wrangler 4cyl to V6 or V8 swap [Re: DusterDave] #1662930
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thanks Dave I was hoping you would reply after seeing your build, what a job but I do have to ask whats the need for a winch on a show poodle? just kidding, what I am looking for is something to pull behind the motor home but with a little more balls than a 4 cyl.

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My bro has an 82 CJ5, when he bought it it was down on power.(Number 3 was toast) He drove it for a while and decided he wanted to swap out the old Iron Duke. A GM SB is a direct swap, but who knows how long that will last. The 4.0L is doable but then you need a new trans. He/we ended up getting a Autozone re-man ($700), added a header, intake and performace 2bbl instead of that cappppppy emissions junk carb and the thing runs good. I guess if you wanted a few extra ponies you could upgrade the cam.


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thanks Dave I was hoping you would reply after seeing your build, what a job but I do have to ask whats the need for a winch on a show poodle? just kidding, what I am looking for is something to pull behind the motor home but with a little more balls than a 4 cyl.



The winch is all part of the disguise of a show poodle masquerading as a actual off-road capable rig.
I can make you a nice deal on the Dana 44. Quite frankly, I don't have the room for it, and I'd like to see it go bye-bye.


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put the small 2.5 cam ,cold air intake,180 t stat dynomax muffler and the 4 cyl wakes up pretty good,plus the decent milaege.and i had 2 one went 255000 miles didnt burn a drop of oil.jeep was destroyed sold motor for 500 bucks,oh yeah put 4.0 throttle body on

Re: Jeep Wrangler 4cyl to V6 or V8 swap [Re: DusterDave] #1662934
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thanks Dave I was hoping you would reply after seeing your build, what a job but I do have to ask whats the need for a winch on a show poodle? just kidding, what I am looking for is something to pull behind the motor home but with a little more balls than a 4 cyl.



The winch is all part of the disguise of a show poodle masquerading as a actual off-road capable rig.
I can make you a nice deal on the Dana 44. Quite frankly, I don't have the room for it, and I'd like to see it go bye-bye.


I haven't bought it yet, just kicking around things. it looks nice in pics I may see if I can get by and take a look at it later today. it has a hard top and A/C. nice paint but I don't like the color but I can change that. anyone swapped a gen3 hemi in one of these? so to put a SB in it I would have to find and auto tranny (don't really want to shift gears)and beef up the transfer cases and rears? would hemi truck set up work?

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If all you want is a little more power, why not pass on the 4 cyl. and look for a Wrangler with a 6 cyl. and auto? You're in for a LOT of work to change out a drivetrain, and at your advanced age, that might be something to think about.


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Re: Jeep Wrangler 4cyl to V6 or V8 swap [Re: DusterDave] #1662936
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well you get into the price range I don't want to go. these jeep owners think they are made of gold. but you are right I really don't know how much I wont to get involved either.

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yep you just need to go with the 4.0 inline 6 really good engine and has plenty of power for what you are wanting to do.


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Re: Jeep Wrangler 4cyl to V6 or V8 swap [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1662938
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get a reman 4.0, and be happy. you can get a crate 4.0, and add the stuff from a junk yard donor, and have a ride that will make you happy. even a stock 4.0 is a decent motor, in a light jeep.


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well you get into the price range I don't want to go. these jeep owners think they are made of gold. but you are right I really don't know how much I wont to get involved either.



Sure, you might pay more up front, but then you won't have to spend more to do an engine swap. The 4.0 will be a decent engine to add a header, cam, etc. if you want more power. Don't forget, more gear ratio will make it feel stronger, too.


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well I went and took a look at the 4cyl, it was pretty clean for the year,no rust. but the motor was tired it had 130K on the clock and had no power. din't smoke or knock but it was clearly down on power. so I gues i'll keep looking and find one with a 6 in it.

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well I went and took a look at the 4cyl, it was pretty clean for the year,no rust. but the motor was tired it had 130K on the clock and had no power. din't smoke or knock but it was clearly down on power. so I gues i'll keep looking and find one with a 6 in it.




They're only 120hp and if sporting anything larger than a stock tire...it really kills what little power it has.....loved mine....but was never in a hurry

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