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Re: torsion bar cross member [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1662648
08/28/14 05:21 PM
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Re: torsion bar cross member [Re: PHJ426] #1662649
08/30/14 01:25 PM
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Re: torsion bar cross member [Re: ThermoQuad] #1662650
08/31/14 12:08 PM
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Project Black n blue-the 70 charger R/T received frame ties and boxing in for the torsion bar x member and other places underneath. I hid most of the mods under a layer of spray-on bedliner. The car rides like the family sedan yet cuts a great corner

The definitive proof that the t bar area requires reinforcement was the numerous comments from the driving school instructors whom were quite amazed at the flat handling of the big fat car.

This is with .98 t bars and hemi leaf springs...

A properly reinforced car does not need a ton of rate in the t bars or rear springs to handle properly.




After reading about others on the board with their large bars describe their car as jumping off of bumps in the local roads (not flat track surface) with matched shocks from the vendor that does tell me that the spring rates are probably a bit too aggressive to overcome the 40 + years and mileage on these unibody cars to provide optimal track performance on a flat well cared for surface....take the car out on a public road in the midwest and it's riddled with potholes, washboards...etc etc and the driver will probably suffer from high anxiety looking for the next pothole to avoid.

I would like to see the Black n Blue Charger vs Mitch's Challenger to have this friendly discussion of reinforced unibody and small bar vs factory unibody and large bar debate put to the test.

Re: torsion bar cross member [Re: PHJ426] #1662651
08/31/14 12:19 PM
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I would like to see the Black n Blue Charger vs Mitch's Challenger to have this friendly discussion of reinforced unibody and small bar vs factory unibody and large bar debate put to the test.




I think the better comparison would be our Challenger vs. Mitch's. Both cars are very similar aside from spring rates and shocks.

Re: torsion bar cross member [Re: PHJ426] #1662652
08/31/14 02:34 PM
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Maybe it is because my car has a full cage that it feels that way? I'm pretty sure that most street driven Mopars don't and have way more chassis flex than mine. I can jack up the front passenger side and the rear lifts higher than before having the cage installed. I am going to keep the 1.12's for now, nothing wrong with them. Planning to lose more front end weight to see if that makes an overall improvement.


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