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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: Ian] #1661142
08/20/14 07:45 PM
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I was just trying to see whats out there.My current combo runs ok for what it is.I have to make a call on a torque converter and just deciding to change the motor or leave it as is and work with it.I have flowed my heads and they were 268 cfm @ 600 lift.I ported these and they seem (for a home job) they work ok.My combo is a 410 10.5 to 1 (180psi)with a flat tappet solid cam.My car is 3150# w/driver.I have been 123.77 mph with this set up.My best et is 10.95 w/1.53 60 ft.How fast can a car go if it runs 122-123 mph in the quarter?This is pump gas w/mufflers.

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410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: mopartuner] #1661143
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I was just trying to see whats out there.My current combo runs ok for what it is.I have to make a call on a torque converter and just deciding to change the motor or leave it as is and work with it.I have flowed my heads and they were 268 cfm @ 600 lift.I ported these and they seem (for a home job) they work ok.My combo is a 410 10.5 to 1 (180psi)with a flat tappet solid cam.My car is 3150# w/driver.I have been 123.77 mph with this set up.My best et is 10.95 w/1.53 60 ft.How fast can a car go if it runs 122-123 mph in the quarter?This is pump gas w/mufflers.




Your about there.......... Maybe a little more room

I went about 124 at 10.74 in an old Eddie head flat tappet combo...... 3400 race weight with a 727

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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: B3422W5] #1661144
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I was just trying to see whats out there.My current combo runs ok for what it is.I have to make a call on a torque converter and just deciding to change the motor or leave it as is and work with it.I have flowed my heads and they were 268 cfm @ 600 lift.I ported these and they seem (for a home job) they work ok.My combo is a 410 10.5 to 1 (180psi)with a flat tappet solid cam.My car is 3150# w/driver.I have been 123.77 mph with this set up.My best et is 10.95 w/1.53 60 ft.How fast can a car go if it runs 122-123 mph in the quarter?This is pump gas w/mufflers.




Your about there.......... Maybe a little more room

I went about 124 at 10.74 in an old Eddie head flat tappet combo...... 3400 race weight with a 727


Oh I think there is some room there,the 60 ft suks


410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far
Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: mopartuner] #1661145
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Yep, at that weight it's very possible to knock a tenth out of that 60 foot. I went 1.44 with what I had, with about a point more compression but good bit more weight.
My eddies went 274@ 600 stage two job Hensley did,.... Picking up 60 foot will really help the whole time slip


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: mopartuner] #1661146
08/21/14 09:43 AM
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When my Barracuda was on pump gas it ran 10.79 @ 123 with a 1.49-1.47 60' time. This is with a 410, 10.8:1 comp, pump gas, small street roller, through the mufflers, 3250 lbs. You could make nice gains if you can pick up the 60' times about 5 hundredths. I would go to a TNT and try different pump cams and squirters on the carb to get the 60' times down.

For what its worth, my ported eddy's flow 293 @ .600...but my cam is only .550 ish lift. I switched to e85 and the car picked up a CHUNK of ET. Now its in the mid 10's, and should be in the 10.4x's this fall.


67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: mopartuner] #1661147
08/21/14 02:21 PM
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http://www.j-performance.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59

Don't know why we are not seeing more testing on these yet, they been out for a while

312 @ .600 lift? Even more flow if you want to go crazy big cam


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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: HotRodDave] #1661148
08/21/14 03:04 PM
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I may be wrong, and hate to see it happen to anybody but I thought Dr.J's porting went out of business not long ago?
I thought it had been posted here but I can't find it. Maybe a rumor somebody started?

Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: fishy340] #1661149
08/21/14 04:17 PM
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my 360-1 cnc heads, stock and w-2 exhaust patterns


2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads
1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel.
motor; 10.258 @ 132.78
200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69
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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: slammedR/T] #1661150
08/21/14 08:06 PM
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my 360-1 cnc heads, stock and w-2 exhaust patterns




My 360-2 cnc heads are that way also..


1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: D-50] #1661151
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I believe that is because w2 headers had 2 different bolt patterns if I remember correctly if you hold up a standard exhaust gasket the ports don't line up.
but its been a while since I was playing with w2s


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1661152
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My ported Eddys flowed just shy of 300 @ .600 on one bench and just over on another.

My best ET is 11.36 @ 118 in a 3400 lb tuck at 7600' DA.


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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: Adobedude] #1661153
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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: Adobedude] #1661154
08/21/14 10:48 PM
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my ported Edelbrock magnum heads were like 305 cfm on champion racing heads flow bench out of palm coast.


2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads
1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel.
motor; 10.258 @ 132.78
200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69
racemagnum
Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: slammedR/T] #1661155
08/21/14 11:20 PM
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IMO the next step after Edelbrocks are indys, if I do another small block that's what I'll use. My Edelbrocks went 293 @ .650 on Curtis Boggs bench with 2.02 valves, they have 2.05" in them now. My 10.9-1 408 with a flat solid cam has ran a best of 6.57 @ 104 with a 1.38 60' uncorked and 6.70 with a 1.41 60' in street trim on pump 93 at 3260 pounds.

Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1661156
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I believe that is because w2 headers had 2 different bolt patterns if I remember correctly if you hold up a standard exhaust gasket the ports don't line up.
but its been a while since I was playing with w2s




I believe you are right
It will work ok on a bracket car with cheap gaskets and red high temp rtv
I wouldnt do it on a street car.

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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: dagohman] #1661157
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I run 360-2"s with cheap 1 5/8th headers. It is temporary until I save up for some tti"s

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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: slammedR/T] #1661158
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Stock header bolt location yes...But far from a stock exhaust port.
J,X or eddie, and pro comp is a stock exhaust port.I wish i could post pictures.

Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: fishy340] #1661159
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Stock header bolt location yes...But far from a stock exhaust port.
J,X or eddie, and pro comp is a stock exhaust port.I wish i could post pictures.




I'm agreeing with you. If he has to retain stock exh. Flange
I would not use the Indy heads
I don't know which would be best. I've seen several cars run great with the eddies

Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: dagohman] #1661160
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i ran the same headers with j heads on my indys -1 ans -2 s just needed a tickle up at the flange end


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Re: Best smallblock head w/stock exaust pattern [Re: dagohman] #1661161
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Who makes those gaskets with the dual bolt pattern? That set looks like they will work for me. I have econo W2's on my 408 in my d100. So no one makes a W2 header for that combo and I have to use standard headers. Always have trouble with them leaking.


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