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1939 Dodge coupe
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08/17/14 11:59 AM
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Hi Thought I would share some pictures of a car that fell into my lap this week. It is a 1939 dodge coupe. Time to do a lot of reading for options on engine and suspension.  I spoke to a guy last night that has a 1937 wrecked coupe that wants to sell. It comes with a 37 sedan parts car and 340 with four speed I am looking at today. 
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/17/14 01:36 PM
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Just remember the 37 has a solid front axle and the 39 does not.
If you are looking for a parts donor, then the 37 is probably not a good choice. Looking for another project then that's a neat ride.
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/19/14 04:08 AM
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your 39 looks to be in decent shape,, 39 the first year of front IFS,, other then in 34 i think they gave it a whirl,,,,ford and GM of that ear still had a straight axel and truck style trailing arms,, A 341 would be great...but buying a 37 that has no useable parts to get it ???
im pretty sure 1939 and 40 front suspension are the same,, i have a 40 coupe,, 41 and up are different,,the lower control arms are the same 39 to 54,,,some of the suspension bushing are the same,,,lowers..all the same,,best up grade u can do are disc brakes,,,easy,,,,and move the upper shock mount from the control arm to the frame,, makes a world of difference,,I have a pair of NOS MOOOG upper control arms for the 1939/40 that are designed to look and work like the 1941 and up,,upper control arms,,feel free to ask,,,if i can help ide be glad too,,, i just did dropped up rights and new front coils,,, rack and pinion,,,on my 40 dodge
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/20/14 01:12 PM
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I have a 37 that I maybe could use some parts for, depending what you end up with.
Keep me in mind...
If the deal happens I'll let you know.
Dave 
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/20/14 11:11 PM
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Hi
Thanks for the responses.
I would like to hear more about the suspension disc brake and shock upgrade.
I should have been more clear on the 37 cars.
They are just basically scrap. Some usable parts for someone, I don't like to see anything scrapped before good parts are pulled.
The 340 was pulled after the accident and stored in the garage untouched.
I made a offer but no word yet from the owner.
Any links for the brake upgrade?
Dave
Never under estimate if a car can be put back. We build two cars that most would have hauled across the scales. Crap make that four cars we need to stop working on junk.
The last street rodder had a car pulled out of a ravine and made into a show car.
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/22/14 02:37 AM
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Hi
Thanks for the responses.
I would like to hear more about the suspension disc brake and shock upgrade.
I should have been more clear on the 37 cars.
They are just basically scrap. Some usable parts for someone, I don't like to see anything scrapped before good parts are pulled.
The 340 was pulled after the accident and stored in the garage untouched.
I made a offer but no word yet from the owner.
Any links for the brake upgrade?
Dave
On the '37's how scrap is scrap?
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/22/14 10:54 AM
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Nice cars. These 37'-39' era cars are really growing on me since a 40'-41' Willys is my favorite street rod but I will never be able to afford one of those.
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/22/14 08:28 PM
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Fstfish66 and I did the disc brakes change on my 1940 plymouth coupe made a big difference looking at doing powersteering this winter and power windows and like fstfish fell free to ask anything
Do you have a link on how this is done?
I will try to get with the guy on the 37 parts cars this weekend.
No word yet this week if he is willing to part with them.
Here is a better picture of my car .
Couldn't help my self ,had to install some wheels I had in storage.
Dave
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/22/14 11:59 PM
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Nice cars. These 37'-39' era cars are really growing on me since a 40'-41' Willys is my favorite street rod but I will never be able to afford one of those.
I love my 37 Plymouth pickup, it will never be for sale as long as I'm alive, took me 30 years to find a good one that was affordable
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/23/14 12:07 AM
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Hi
Thanks for the responses.
I would like to hear more about the suspension disc brake and shock upgrade.
I should have been more clear on the 37 cars.
They are just basically scrap. Some usable parts for someone, I don't like to see anything scrapped before good parts are pulled.
The 340 was pulled after the accident and stored in the garage untouched.
I made a offer but no word yet from the owner.
Any links for the brake upgrade?
Dave
On the '37's how scrap is scrap?
I took a 48 Plymouth that had rust holes on every flat surface the could hold water and stuck it on a Dakota chassis to resemble an old dirt track race car. I would love to do the same thing to a 35-38! My coupe has been on the road for 4 years now. Scrap is dependent on the abilities and ambition of the person in possession of the said scrap.
Before picture, this is the driver side floorboard, body mount and rocker, looking from the passenger side of the car. Gene
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/24/14 12:19 AM
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If a car is as wide as a 39 truck it will but wheels are very limited and ride height cannot be very low. If it was my project I would go mustang II since it easy to do.
56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/24/14 03:17 AM
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Who would be a good vender for a Mustang front suspension kit?
Dave
Fat man fabrication makes a front stub but there site is kind of hard to find stuff on
what I found was a stub for around $1,100.00 which I feel is a bit high.
I do most of my own work and I put 2 rails out the front and use a mustang II cross member or one from ebay
on my Race truck I have a stock mustang cradle that I cut out of a 1976ish mustang and trimmed down and fitted it to a 80's toyota PU frame rails.
you can get after market cross members on ebay but you will still need some kind of frame rails sticking out front to hook it to.
you might want to check out measurements of a stock Dakota chassis and see how wide they are, just remember the stock wheel are inboarded quite a bit.
here is the thread on my truck
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=3&fpart=1
so with all that being said I sure don't know what would be the best way to go with your car.
it would all depend on how you feel about fabrication work and how much of it you can do.. 
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/24/14 03:54 AM
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Who would be a good vender for a Mustang front suspension kit?
Dave
on a 39/40 u have to chop off the frame at the fire wall and install a stub to install a mustang front suspension,,,these 39 40 front suspensions are just as good,, u need to convert to disc brakes and rack and pinion steering,,and move the upper shock mount to the frame,,
only drawl back is,, if your factory stuff is in need of a rebuild,,depending what you need to replace,,, both set ups will cost the same if you can do the work,,,,
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1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/24/14 05:01 PM
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Brought the 340 home today. The engine is a 1970 with a 69 a body trans. The owner is letting me bring it to my shop to tear down and inspect before I buy it. I did notice that the right engine mount ear is broken. Dave   
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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08/25/14 11:39 PM
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So, do you have pictures of the 37? The last 39 Plymouth I had, I did the disc brake conversion and the Caviler rack & pinion. I didn't get around to doing the upper shock relocate before someone needed the car much more then I did (I had to put a motor in my work truck at that time). I also did a 39 with a Dakota front clip, but I didn't get that one done either, before it went down the road (I'm seeing a growing pattern here.  ) I have, however completed a Dakota swap on a 48 Plymouth, and my current car has the full Dakota frame under it. The wheels on a Dakota (87-90 are 5 bolt wheels, 91-96 can have the 6 bolt wheels changed to 5 bolt by just swapping the 5 bolt parts, swapping to 5 bolt wheels on the 97 & newer is not an easy task) are factory inset by about 2" compared to the old style wheels, and I believe the Dakota has a 60" track. That puts the stock offset Dakota wheels close to the fender edge. If you intend on slamming it to the ground, I suspect the tires will rub the fenders, or be very close. At normal ride height, everything should be OK. With the Dakota, just like any time you change the frame, you will need to fabricate a radiator support for your 39. Between the Dakota and the upgraded original frame, if your original frame and suspension is in good condition, its tough to beat the original frame, and I suspect the final cost is going to be about the same money spent. To do it right, any way you go, should have new brakes, rebuilt suspension, new shocks, and rebuilt steering box/rack. I've not ever done a Mustang II front end, and the money spent is about the same. Gene
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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09/06/14 01:44 PM
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Hi Still no word on the cars ,I will try to see him today. We got the body off the frame this week. Frame looks good overall. Dave  
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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09/06/14 03:54 PM
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Hi
Still no word on the cars ,I will try to see him today.
We got the body off the frame this week.
Frame looks good overall.
Dave
Taking your time on this one!
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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09/08/14 11:06 PM
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Hi Brought the parts cars home tonight, man are they bad! The coupe actually broke in half getting it out. The sedan has a decent front clip. The chevy truck is real bad also. The coupe does have a 8 3/4 under it and some trim. Dave   
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Re: 1939 Dodge coupe
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09/10/14 03:10 AM
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Hi
Brought the parts cars home tonight, man are they bad!
The coupe actually broke in half getting it out.
The sedan has a decent front clip.
The chevy truck is real bad also.
The coupe does have a 8 3/4 under it and some trim.
Dave
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wooow that sucks,,,is the trunk lid sellable??people always looking for those,,,
is your 39 a vent window car or no?? ive seen a few 39/40 with no vent windows from the factory,,
1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD)
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver
2015 cherokee
2013 R/T classic
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