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Rear reinforcement B-body #1649139
07/21/14 05:50 AM
07/21/14 05:50 AM
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I found these on the net and besides subframeconnectors and torqueboxes I didn't knew a way to reinforce the rear.







Because I'm in the middle of rebuilding my Satellite, I was woundering if there are any other rear reinforcements?

Re: Rear reinforcement B-body [Re: dickdale] #1649140
07/21/14 10:15 AM
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1. I don't debate that the added gussett adds something
2. I do question why reinforcement is needed in that location

3. I also wonder what other areas have already been reinforced that then requires some added stiffness at this location.

4. Without knowing more then pictured here, IMO this is just chasing your tail modifications

5. In most situations, there is very little vehicle mass this far rearward, the leafs being so far forward biased transmit much smaller forces at this location to the chassis this far rearward, horizontally and vertically.

6. A simple panhard bar would remove much of the original horizontal forces at this location

Re: Rear reinforcement B-body [Re: jcc] #1649141
07/23/14 05:37 AM
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Never knew about the panhard bar. Lesson learned.

I agree on the forces this far to the rear are limited.

I found the ad on CL: https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4553431925.html

Before the ad disappears:

1970 PLYMOUTH HEMI Road Runner Clone - $51000 (Oconomowoc)

This a real Roadrunner, 383, 4 speed post car. Started out as a rust free Arizona vehichle. Car was assembled over the past three years and wherever original parts could be used they were. Short of the headers this car appears like a 70 Hemi car. The person who built this Hemi has been building and racing them for 30 years. 528 cu inch 600HP Hemi @ 5800 RPM on the break in dyno. The body was media blasted to bare steel, HEMI specific torque boxes and rear leaf spring reinforcement plates were installed, light body work and painted top, bottom inside and out with Dupont Chroma base and clear. Some would say the paint is a 10 but I am very picky and give it a 9.
The fit and finish are very nice and when you stop attracts all kinds of attention. Driving this car is a pure pleasure. On the highway the interior is relatively quiet with no exhaust drone. Shifts smoothly and will smoke the tires whenever you wish. Brakes are power and work better than any Mopar I have ever driven from this era. Below is a list of things done. . .not by any means every thing:

Purpose built 528 cu inch Hemi (600+ HP), Mopar block (not a World Products block) hydraulic roller camshaft, coated pistons, correct intake, 6 1/2 quart HEMI oil pan, electronic distributor -- no expense spared on engine
Dana 60 with new Strange center section and axels, 355 gear ratio
Edelbrock 600 CFM (jetted on Dyno) carbs that have been fit with original style Hemi linkage
833 4 speed with original shifter linkage and shifter -- correct for 70 with dual mounting pads
All new Legendary interior, carpet, headliner, seat covers, seat belts, head rests, etc.
Correct looking steel Hemi air cleaner for Edelbrock carbs (Ben Snobar piece)
Correct (for 70) Mopar valve covers, with PVC, filler cap and vent breather
Correct (for 70) Hemi power brake booster and master
Correct Hemi K frame with poly lock Hemi engine mounts
All new fuel tank and fuel sender
Mancini racing mini starter
All new fuel lines
All new hard and soft brake lines correct for disc brake car
70 -- 72 front disc brakes with caliper mounted on front of spindle
All new rear 2.5 inch drum brakes, drums, all hardware, seals and brake cables
Professionally re-plated dash face and refurbished gages
New Just Dashes dash pad -- sent original core to be redone
Original front and rear bumpers professionally re-plated
Professionally restored 3 speed wiper motor by Jules the wiper guy
Period correct Mopar red top battery
All new weatherstrip front to rear to include wing windows, cowl and front of hood
Correct bell housing for 70, clutch fork, z- bar and adjustment linkage
New Mcloed 130 tooth flywheel, clutch, pressure plate and throw-out bearing
Professionally refurbished heater box with new heater core and correct date stamp
Professionally refurbished steering column
New air grabber line kit
TTI headers
TTI full 3 inch exhaust with correct oval tips
New Strange 3 inch drive shaft with new joints
956 radiator with new shroud (runs 180 degrees all the time)
Correct hemi 7 blade fan
Round back alternator with dual pulley
New front grille and surround chrome
100% all new Moog front suspension
New Bilstien shocks (high dollar)
New Hemi rear leaf springs
New .960 torsion bars
New windshield and gasket
New rear glass and gasket
*All new AMD Side, 1/4, and wing window glass
All bright trim polished
New front, rear and Hemi engine harness. The only harness reused was dash harness
Correct 70 Hemi positive battery cable and harness
Correct Negative battery cable
Correct 70 date coded plug wires
Correct thickness harmonic balancer with Hemi pulleys
New Holley HP 150 super quiet electric fuel pump
Period correct Goodyear Polyglass tires-front are F60 x 15 and rear are L60 x 15 -- front rims are Mopar 7 inch and rear are Mopar 8 inch
Every nut and bolt re-plated
Clutch and brake pedals professionally refurbished
Autometer Phantom Oil pressure, water temp. and volt gauges
*Passenger side glass in on back order from AMD

Re: Rear reinforcement B-body [Re: dickdale] #1649142
07/24/14 03:13 PM
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Looking at those pics, I wonder if the plates have anything to do with an old trailer hitch? Remember, these used to be 'just' cars. I had a '78 wagon that had a Reese style hitch welded on (looked like you coulda drug the White House off its foundation), and it was gusseted like that at the mounting points.....

Just a wag.



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Re: Rear reinforcement B-body [Re: SattyNoCar] #1649143
07/24/14 04:01 PM
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Sure makes sense to me


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Re: Rear reinforcement B-body [Re: jcc] #1649144
07/28/14 03:45 AM
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The more boxes you make the stronger the assembly. I wonder how well boxing in a subframe connector to the rockers would improve stiffness...Tim


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