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Cam break in oil question #1648713
07/20/14 02:25 PM
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I'm helping a friend put a new cam in his 383. Just an old DC .509 that has been on the shelf for 30 years. He last changed his oil 18 months ago with 10/30 VR1 and 1/2 bottle of GM EOS. He has less than 100 miles on the oil change. He insists that it will be fine to leave that oil in for the cam break in and change it out after 30 minutes. I am not totally comfortable with this, but I don't really see a reason not to. Any opinions on this?

Re: Cam break in oil question [Re: gss] #1648714
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Jeez, I'd at least pour the rest of the EOS in there and put a fresh filter on it - for cutting open & inspecting after break-in - and make sure the oil's topped off. But I'd prefer to see some fresh high-zinc oil and EOS in there.

Re: Cam break in oil question [Re: topside] #1648715
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He may get away with it but is it worth taking a chance of wiping a cam lobe ? Myself I would just put fresh VR racing oil and the zinc additive in and not worry about it. Ron

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Re: Cam break in oil question [Re: gss] #1648716
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I don't think EOS (same as mopar crankcase additve) has zinc any longer as it has been reformulated for new roller engines with cats so not worth putting in. add some Comp Cam breakin additive and then another can after break in with a zinc oil like VR1.
Combustion byproduct build up in used oil may make it acidic I'd change the oil to some way cheap oil and filter with a can or two of break in additve. after break in 45 to 60 minutes total go New VR1 + comp cams additive.
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PS install the cam about 102 to 103 to make it run good.

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Re: Cam break in oil question [Re: Dodgem] #1648717
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The new EOS supposedly does have less zinc; I recall the old stuff being phased out a while back and I bought all the old EOS I could get my hands on locally.

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I'm helping a friend put a new cam in his 383.


On a side (but critical) note I'd make sure the lifteers are free to rotate. I mockup each lifter on the lobes & with the lifters/bores cleaned with brake kleen then lightly lubed with WD40 lift each lifter up off of its' lobe with your finger & let loose of it & it should fall back onto it's lobe under it's own weight with a resounding "thunk" & if not they're too tight


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I'm helping a friend put a new cam in his 383. Just an old DC .509 that has been on the shelf for 30 years. He last changed his oil 18 months ago with 10/30 VR1 and 1/2 bottle of GM EOS. He has less than 100 miles on the oil change. He insists that it will be fine to leave that oil in for the cam break in and change it out after 30 minutes. I am not totally comfortable with this, but I don't really see a reason not to. Any opinions on this?




Tell your friend that the cost of 5 qts of fresh oil and a bottle of Comp cams breakin additive is cheaper than rebuilding the engine if he loses a cam lobe.







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