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budget roller rockers b/rb
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07/16/14 05:18 PM
07/16/14 05:18 PM
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Oakville, Wa
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Oakville, Wa
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Looking for some cheaper roller rockers. I bought some procomp stainless rollers andthey rattle and sounds like poop . Any experience with outhers under 500$? These are not on my racecar just my streeter.
67 Barracuda, 470" B, Glide, FuelTech FT600, Precision, Ptc, QA1, Calvert, Smith racecraft, Afco, Dana 60. 275 radials
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: Kern Dog]
#1647313
07/17/14 04:40 PM
07/17/14 04:40 PM
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Chicago, IL
TonyS451
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Chicago, IL
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Crane gold's are a good rocker for under 500. I would stay away from the cheapies that "look" like harland sharps. If a rocker lets go, those needle bearings will wreak havoc on an engine.
2 kids and a dog
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: TonyS451]
#1647314
07/17/14 08:25 PM
07/17/14 08:25 PM
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Carson City, NV
440sourcedotcom
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Early on, we sold most of the value priced rockers on the market including Cat, Proform, Procomp and a few others, and we agree, the quality left a lot to be desired. We wanted to offer something better, but without breaking the bank. In 2006, we got together with an established manufacturer, and went over every detail of the extrusions, materials, heat treating, etc. Towards the end of 2007, we released our 200-1045 (1.5 ratio) and 200-1046 (1.6 ratio) rocker arms and we've had great luck with them. As you can see in the attached picture, (which is a screenshot directly from our order management system,) we've sold 1599 sets of the 1.5 version, and in the 6.5 years they've been on the market, 15 of them have been returned. Of those 15, probably half were from people who had gone a different direction with their build, switched out 1.5's for 1.6's, etc, not necessarily people who had any problems. The failure rate is incredibly low on these, as a percentage of how many we've sold. So, if you are looking for a very nice full roller set at a great price, give these a look. We've had great luck with them and they are one of our most popular parts.  .. Click here for pictures and descriptions of our rockers: http://store.440source.com/Aluminum-Roller-Rockers_shafts-15-Ratio-New/productinfo/200-1045/
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: 440sourcedotcom]
#1647315
07/17/14 10:46 PM
07/17/14 10:46 PM
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Early on, we sold most of the value priced rockers on the market including Cat, Proform, Procomp and a few others, and we agree, the quality left a lot to be desired. We wanted to offer something better, but without breaking the bank.
In 2006, we got together with an established manufacturer, and went over every detail of the extrusions, materials, heat treating, etc. Towards the end of 2007, we released our 200-1045 (1.5 ratio) and 200-1046 (1.6 ratio) rocker arms and we've had great luck with them.
As you can see in the attached picture, (which is a screenshot directly from our order management system,) we've sold 1599 sets of the 1.5 version, and in the 6.5 years they've been on the market, 15 of them have been returned. Of those 15, probably half were from people who had gone a different direction with their build, switched out 1.5's for 1.6's, etc, not necessarily people who had any problems. The failure rate is incredibly low on these, as a percentage of how many we've sold.
So, if you are looking for a very nice full roller set at a great price, give these a look. We've had great luck with them and they are one of our most popular parts.
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Click here for pictures and descriptions of our rockers:
http://store.440source.com/Aluminum-Roller-Rockers_shafts-15-Ratio-New/productinfo/200-1045/
This question has to be asked......
Your store policy states returns are only allowed on brand new Un-Used parts....so is your ratio of sales to returns relevant concerning the quality or failure rate ?
I am sure most wanna believe these are good safe rockers to use....unfortunately every post about them gets muddied up by people that say they "heard" bad things...or guys that refuse to believe any rockers that cost less than $500 are any good....but rarely from people that have actually used them.
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
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#1647319
07/18/14 04:35 PM
07/18/14 04:35 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 741
Carson City, NV
440sourcedotcom
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super stock
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Carson City, NV
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Quote:
This question has to be asked......
Your store policy states returns are only allowed on brand new Un-Used parts....so is your ratio of sales to returns relevant concerning the quality or failure rate ?
I am sure most wanna believe these are good safe rockers to use....unfortunately every post about them gets muddied up by people that say they "heard" bad things...or guys that refuse to believe any rockers that cost less than $500 are any good....but rarely from people that have actually used them.
That's a good question. There might be some confusion going on between returns and warranties.
For a part to be returned, it needs to be in new, resalable condition. This is no different than Summit Racing or many other companies which specify exactly the same thing.
Warranty is a different issue. Our warranty is consistent with Comp Cams, Edelbrock, and almost every other company in the performance industry, which is basically that parts used in high performance/racing applications are not covered under failure during use.
That being said, we do try to honestly evaluate each situation individually. If there was an obvious premature failure of any part we sell that was brought to our attention within a reasonable amount of time, we will cover it.
After reading over the way our warranty was worded from your point of view, we did agree that it was unclear and made it sound like once you use a part, any part, it was no longer covered under warranty, period. This is not, and has never been the case. So we do thank you for bringing this to our attention, and we have re-written the wording of our warranty policy to make this more specific and precise:
http://store.440source.com/faq.asp
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: hemi-itis]
#1647320
07/18/14 04:56 PM
07/18/14 04:56 PM
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Carson City, NV
440sourcedotcom
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Carson City, NV
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In the land of rockers,lifters and valve springs,you get what you pay for.Cheap is cheap  
We thought it might be helpful to point out the specific facts and numbers related to our experiences with these rockers, which have been very positive. Of course everyone is entitled to reach their own conclusions.
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: 440sourcedotcom]
#1647321
07/18/14 05:19 PM
07/18/14 05:19 PM
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Metro Detroit
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Have ~20k miles on the Crane Golds on my 493. Pretty mild cam solid flat tappet. I'd go with them again (do they still make them?)
Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...
71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts
66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: OUTLAWD]
#1647322
07/18/14 11:55 PM
07/18/14 11:55 PM
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washington
Bruce
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washington
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I looked at your rockers on your web site and they look pretty nice. 600lbs open pressure seems fine, especially since you don't have to find out the hard way you have too much spring pressure for the rocker. One question I have about the shafts is are they cleaned out before the end caps are put on if they are assembled by you. The reason I ask, is that when my son and I assembled his present engine we took the caps off the rocker shafts and they were really dirty inside. Not your product of course. Thanks for coming on the site and showing what you have to offer. 
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Re: budget roller rockers b/rb
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
#1647324
07/19/14 01:14 AM
07/19/14 01:14 AM
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Well, only one person that has actually used the 440source rockers, and had no trouble.....
so 440source= 100% success rate so far
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