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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Here's my answer They are in the buisness aren't they & own the rights & pick the vendors to make what they own ?
I already have a career this is just a hobby that cost me 100.000 grand in the last 3 yrs.
And can i ask what kind of motor are you running ? Is it a race car or cruiser with a stock block ? If you were in OUR shoes and looking to go fast i believe you might feel differently.
Ps while the new Gen hemi is cool to try and compete with 23* or 20* on power adders i think would be difficult and i dont wanna be a ginny pig to see how mucb spray it can take.
Just because Mopar made something at one time doesn't mean they have to continue making it. Maybe the demand is just not there anymore to justify it.
As for what I have, I have a street/strip car with a Gen 3 Hemi. Been there and done that with a full blown race car......No more for me. Seems to me you need to take a good look at your program and if the parts aren't available, move on to what is.
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Here's my answer They are in the buisness aren't they & own the rights & pick the vendors to make what they own ?
I already have a career this is just a hobby that cost me 100.000 grand in the last 3 yrs.
And can i ask what kind of motor are you running ? Is it a race car or cruiser with a stock block ? If you were in OUR shoes and looking to go fast i believe you might feel differently.
Ps while the new Gen hemi is cool to try and compete with 23* or 20* on power adders i think would be difficult and i dont wanna be a ginny pig to see how mucb spray it can take.
Just because Mopar made something at one time doesn't mean they have to continue making it. Maybe the demand is just not there anymore to justify it.
As for what I have, I have a street/strip car with a Gen 3 Hemi. Been there and done that with a full blown race car......No more for me. Seems to me you need to take a good look at your program and if the parts aren't available, move on to what is.
So I should move on from small block mopars? No more race sbms, so what should I put in? Can't go gen 3 hemi no race blocks either. So I guess I should go small block chevy? Or maybe ford? What do you think Steff?
how much power do you intend to make? seems like the factory Gen3blocks can handle quite alot of power boosted.
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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07/14/14 11:24 AM
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So I should move on from small block mopars? No more race sbms, so what should I put in? Can't go gen 3 hemi no race blocks either. So I guess I should go small block chevy? Or maybe ford? What do you think Steff?
It's kinda' like this, people can piss and moan about products that used to be available, and are not anymore. Or, scour the used market for those parts. Or, look at other options of product that is available. Or, look at the possibility of creating that much needed product.
It would be nice if Chrysler was to start making the race blocks again, but it's quite evident that it isn't a big priority anymore. I wonder why Indy never developed a SBM block to go along with their BBM block? Seems like a perfect opportunity to get a needed product to the market and make a few bucks. But then again, maybe the market and return on investment isn't there.
What ever became of the Ritter Block?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Well there ya go...i'd feel no pain either if they stopped gen3 stuff.I have a preference and have been loyal to a brand that does nothing to help.
As far as demand as i stated we are not GM or Ford big but more.and more.and getting aftermarket stuff because good 340's are getting rare.
Even for guys that will never need max effort having a place to buy a block is essential..ps they are selling like crazy I know this.
As i stated earlier im building this W9 motor and if i blow it and need another block..I AM GONE thats all im saying.That is of course mopar does something and makes more !
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Well there ya go...i'd feel no pain either if they stopped gen3 stuff.I have a preference and have been loyal to a brand that does nothing to help.
As far as demand as i stated we are not GM or Ford big but more.and more.and getting aftermarket stuff because good 340's are getting rare.
Even for guys that will never need max effort having a place to buy a block is essential..ps they are selling like crazy I know this.
As i stated earlier im building this W9 motor and if i blow it and need another block..I AM GONE thats all im saying.That is of course mopar does something and makes more !
Please don't take what I said as pouring salt into the wound or anything like that. I didn't mean it that way. I feel for ya'. I was just trying to get the point thru that necessity spurns innovation and maybe this is an opportunity for someone to create a new block for the marketplace.
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Well there ya go...i'd feel no pain either if they stopped gen3 stuff.I have a preference and have been loyal to a brand that does nothing to help.
As far as demand as i stated we are not GM or Ford big but more.and more.and getting aftermarket stuff because good 340's are getting rare.
Even for guys that will never need max effort having a place to buy a block is essential..ps they are selling like crazy I know this.
As i stated earlier im building this W9 motor and if i blow it and need another block..I AM GONE thats all im saying.That is of course mopar does something and makes more !
Just out of curiosity how much hp are you looking at making?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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Here's my answer They are in the buisness aren't they & own the rights & pick the vendors to make what they own ?
I already have a career this is just a hobby that cost me 100.000 grand in the last 3 yrs.
And can i ask what kind of motor are you running ? Is it a race car or cruiser with a stock block ? If you were in OUR shoes and looking to go fast i believe you might feel differently.
Ps while the new Gen hemi is cool to try and compete with 23* or 20* on power adders i think would be difficult and i dont wanna be a ginny pig to see how mucb spray it can take.
Just because Mopar made something at one time doesn't mean they have to continue making it. Maybe the demand is just not there anymore to justify it.
As for what I have, I have a street/strip car with a Gen 3 Hemi. Been there and done that with a full blown race car......No more for me. Seems to me you need to take a good look at your program and if the parts aren't available, move on to what is.
So I should move on from small block mopars? No more race sbms, so what should I put in? Can't go gen 3 hemi no race blocks either. So I guess I should go small block chevy? Or maybe ford? What do you think Steff?
how much power do you intend to make? seems like the factory Gen3blocks can handle quite alot of power boosted.
I am at the 1000 hp level now so if I build another motor I would want to make more. I would want to do a factory block and be told I think it will hold up. I run nitrous so that is a little harder on parts then boost.
yep you are up there where even these strong Gen3 stockblocks might have a limited lifetime,i would use boost instead of nitrous unless you are stuck with the nitrous by some rules.
cant you find one of those Aluminum blocks?i seem to remember mopar makeing a few different styles of aluminum Gen3 blocks some time ago
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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07/15/14 01:56 PM
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So now I need to sell my heads, motor, intake,custom headers, change power adders change convertors and motor mounts and find a aluminum block! It should only be 15k if I get good deals lol. I wonder why I race a Mopar.
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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07/15/14 03:09 PM
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What specific part # are you guys after?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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My question is why does Mopar have to supply these parts? This is America where anyone can become an entrepreneur and get the ball rolling on aftermarket parts. Put a business plan together, get a small business loan or investors and give it a shot.
They Don't but if you think anyone wants to go through what Kent Ritter went through you are crazy.
Their are laws and you just cant copy a patent ya know ? Liscensing etc etc.
This has happened before hence why Kent did what he did for the market.
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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They Don't but if you think anyone wants to go through what Kent Ritter went through you are crazy.
Their are laws and you just cant copy a patent ya know ? Liscensing etc etc.
This has happened before hence why Kent did what he did for the market.
I find it hard to believe that every aftermarket block, head etc... made by a third party, for any brand, is violating a patent. If that was the case, alot of people are breaking the law. Maybe they may pay a licencing fee if they mention the original Company name in their part description. But other than that..... I guess I need to find out, as I developed a Camshaft Belt Drive for the Gen 3 Hemi, that I'm real close to putting on the market.
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
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I was basically checking the availability of my P4876671AD block just as an example. Often if you order a depleted part it will at least show a prospective build or release date.... Not the R3 blocks. Jegs shows them on eBay for a hefty sum of $3287. Even says the have 10 available.... they have none. I'll continue the rest of the story later.
....stayed on hold a little while over lunch and the Jegs rep got back on and said he had called his "mopar rep" and they told him that any order made in June would have been honored....anything else, the end.
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.....finally piece together the small block of my dreams and all the parts are unobtanium.