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small block 59 and 48 degree
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when do you see or need the benefits of a 48 degree over a 59 degree 416 w5 spinning 8000
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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When you want a head that makes more power
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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When you want a head that makes more power
the lifter angles going to make more power spinning at same rpm ????
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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It gets the pushrod pinch out of the way, better head castings that make more power. More stable valvetrain for more hp and reliability. Fit larger pushrods more lift just much better design.
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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when do you see or need the benefits of a 48 degree over a 59 degree 416 w5 spinning 8000
I'd say you are right on the edge there. My W5 340 would start knocking the adjusters loose over 8K. That had to be some pretty serious shakin' going on in there. 
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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Once I went with T&D rockers my 59* blocks worked fine up to 8200 rpm but I didnt go higher(didnt need to) but I have gone WAY HIGHER on my 48* 
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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Once I went with T&D rockers my 59* blocks worked
fine up to 8200 rpm but I didnt go higher(didnt need
to) but I have gone WAY HIGHER on my 48*
Did you see HP improvements over 8000 RPM I currently run a W8 R3 48dg we just start bumping our shift up to 8000 in 2nd and 3rd
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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Once I went with T&D rockers my 59* blocks worked
fine up to 8200 rpm but I didnt go higher(didnt need
to) but I have gone WAY HIGHER on my 48*
Did you see HP improvements over 8000 RPM I currently run a W8 R3 48dg we just start bumping our shift up to 8000 in 2nd and 3rd
I was trying to find more power.. my cam lift was way
to short and never found any more past 8200.. but
if your in the .800+ lift you should find more.. I
was in the .710 lift range
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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Once I went with T&D rockers my 59* blocks worked
fine up to 8200 rpm but I didnt go higher(didnt need
to) but I have gone WAY HIGHER on my 48*
Did you see HP improvements over 8000 RPM I currently run a W8 R3 48dg we just start bumping our shift up to 8000 in 2nd and 3rd
I turn mine 8k rpm with the T&D rockers on my 360-1 cnc heads and stock magnum block.
2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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when do you see or need the benefits of a 48 degree over a 59 degree 416 w5 spinning 8000
I'd say you are right on the edge there. My W5 340 would start knocking the adjusters loose over 8K. That had to be some pretty serious shakin' going on in there. :
how much power is to be had out of a 416 after 8000 rpm with scat lightweight forged crank h beam rods and ross dome pistons
Depends on your heads and cam.
I'm thinking unless you have some real serious heads and cam you are already on the downward side of the curve at 8k.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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What timing chain are you guys running on your 48° blocks tall decks??????? 
I use the KB gear drive
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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What timing chain are you guys running on your 48° blocks tall decks???????
I use the KB gear drive
Can a chain be used ????
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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What timing chain are you guys running on your 48° blocks tall decks???????
I use the KB gear drive
Can a chain be used ????
Sure... just use a quality one
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Re: small block 59 and 48 degree
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What timing chain are you guys running on your 48° blocks tall decks???????
I use the KB gear drive
Can a chain be used ????
Sure... just use a quality one
Quality one ?? Are that longer then a reg A block ?? The r block I'm looking at is a tall deck 48 degree with std cam bearings
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