High charging voltage
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I recently had a change happen in the charging voltage at the battery. Its now reading 15.3v. I pulled alternator had it tested, its good, then tried a different voltage regulator same issue with 15.3 volts at battery. Any suggestions where to look next?
Thx Mike
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Re: High charging voltage
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Try running a wire from bat neg to the reg.It might be losing ground.Have the batt tested also.Ive seen bad ones up the charge.Rocky
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Re: High charging voltage
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therocks I will try both those suggestions....keep them coming guys.
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Re: High charging voltage
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Mine is 1970 Cuda. i have the Mopar performance distributor with Silver ECU and black voltage regulator with restoration wire harness for Electronic ignition.
So I pull the VR connector, then measure voltage of the wire with key in run position and compare to the battery voltage. If they are same, that is good, if not?
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Re: High charging voltage
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early (1 field wire/mech reg) or later (2 field wires/electronic reg)? A low battery will require that high & that is too high (for a charged batt) but you said this happened all of a sudden? A batt can go bad & want a high rate. To elim this can you sub in another batt for 5 minutes? I would put it on a fast idle & check voltages at the batt and the alt and the blue sense wire AT the reg and voltae drop between reg case and batt neg post on low scale (tenths). k.i.s.s I'd be inclined to think reg or voltage drops & more reg cuz it happened all of a sudden if I'm reading that right. sumpin ain't makin sense here on the symptoms especially with the alt and reg testing good & you'd think r&r ing the reg would confirm its' ground. Break out your meter!
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Re: High charging voltage
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I have #2 the two field wire with electronic VR. I do have a second battery to use and will try that first.I did run a ground wire from the alt to the VR and that had no effect. I also cleaned up all the grounds including VR to firewall.
I suspect the battery now.....its 4 yrs old.
Thanks to all, Moparts is a great place to get help.
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Re: High charging voltage
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You subbed in another electronic reg for the electronic reg that was in there & no change? I'm gonna go out on a limb & say that both regs are bad . Holler how it turns out
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Re: High charging voltage
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The VR regulates the voltage by varying the ground to the green field wire, if the green wire shorts to ground anywhere between the alternator and the VR (along the valve cover is common) the alternator will put out a high voltage.
Also, most testers fully ground one field terminal so an internally grounded field will show OK on the tester. Try swapping the field wires at the alternator to see if that makes a difference...if not, check for a shorted green wire.
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Re: High charging voltage
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Rapidrobert, very possible you are right, I do have a third VR i can try. I want to swap out batteries first and go from there.
John, I had the alternator tested by a rebuilder, I explained my problem to the rebuilder, hoping he tested it to eliminate the alternator as the problem.
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Re: High charging voltage
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When it's running (carefully) check the voltage between the battery + terminal, and the blue wire at the alternator.
I'd wager you'll read ~0.8v there. If so, that's your problem, and like mentioned earlier, you have too much resistance in the blue wire between the alt and the battery.
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Re: High charging voltage
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When it's running (carefully) check the voltage between the battery + terminal, and the blue wire at the alternator.
I'd wager you'll read ~0.8v there. If so, that's your problem, and like mentioned earlier, you have too much resistance in the blue wire between the alt and the battery.
That is a good voltage drop test of the sensing wire circuit to the reg. The voltage you read at the battery is all controlled by the reg and the voltage it senses. I would also test the volts on the blue sensing wire at the reg with the wire hooked up and the car running. You can use a very sharp pin or needle and just stab the wire to get through the insulation and read the volts on the blue sensing wire at the reg. You want to leave it hooked up to get a true reading so you will be back probing the blue sense wire with it running and all wires hooked up. Thats the voltage the reg will use to control output and you need to know just what it is running when you read 15.3 at the battery. If you have the newer 2 field wire alt you can also back probe the green wire from the alt to the reg and if you see 15.3 at the battery the green wire from the alt to the reg should read a high voltage as it should not be grounding the green wire much at all when the battery is at 15.3. Also compare the voltage when the car is running between the blue sense wire at the reg back probing it and the volts at the battery as they should be very close to the same. Good luck , Ron
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Re: High charging voltage
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I changed battery and it dropped to 14.8v running, the engine was still relatively cold and off fast idle. I will further check the sense wire to see what is going on there. Thanks for that suggestion.
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Re: High charging voltage
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When trying too sort out charging system issues it is best to have a fully charged battery. Sounds like either your battery was low or is weak. Might want to charge and test it.
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