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What stall? #1619960
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Project Orange Monster #4 is underway

This motor will be a RB 505ci with E RPM heads, hyd roller, Indy dp intake, 3:23 gear 3450 pounds with me in it. 90% street driven


What stall would be good for this combo??

Thanks

Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619961
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Call Paul Forte, or any other good converter builder, and ask them I'm thinking a Mopar 11 inch core to start with and shoot for 3500 to 4200 RPM flash stall I had a custom built 10 inch Continental street and strip in my 512 low deck wedge pump gas stroker, that one went 10.30 at 128.+ MPH through the exhaust on Oregon pump gas with the air cleaner on in my 3450 lbs. street Duster I had Chris at Continental (310-674-1072) make me another street and strip converter for a customers 1968 Charger with a 484 C.I. crate type street Hemi pump gas motor in it, it was a 11 inch core that was rated at 3000 RPM stall and it works great The customer loves it also


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Re: What stall? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1619962
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Call your preferred convertor company and tell them your combo and they will tell you the best one for your application. I like PTC and Kenny Ford is a Mopar guy.

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Re: What stall? [Re: D-50] #1619963
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I run a Lupo-Dynamic that was custom built for my combo. The guys at Dynamic were great to work with. As said above, your best bet is going to be to call a converter company and talk to them about what you're doing. They should help you.

While you're at it..... lose the hyd. roller.

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Re: What stall? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1619964
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I run a Lupo-Dynamic that was custom built for my combo. The guys at Dynamic were great to work with. As said above, your best bet is going to be to call a converter company and talk to them about what you're doing. They should help you.

While you're at it..... lose the hyd. roller.





I'll ask... why dump the hyd roller... have you ever
run one... I have a solid roller in my street ride
and plan on a hyd roller.. if I stay with this engine

Re: What stall? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1619965
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I've built dozens of motors with hyd rollers. Never a problem. Please re read what the car is being used for.


Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619966
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Oh well, looks like I will give Ken a call at PTC. That's who I roll with

Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619967
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The boys at PTC are a going to adjust my converter for my new combo Great customer service at Performance Torque Converter

Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619968
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The boys at PTC are a going to adjust my converter for my new combo Great customer service at Performance Torque Converter




Cool... what sized do you have and what did they say
you need for stall

Re: What stall? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1619969
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It's a 9.5" converter. They are just going to tighten it up a bit.

Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619970
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Quote:

Project Orange Monster #4 is underway

This motor will be a RB 505ci with E RPM heads, hyd roller, Indy dp intake, 3:23 gear 3450 pounds with me in it. 90% street driven


What stall would be good for this combo??

Thanks




Whats the duration on the cam?? Comp??

With todays much more efficient verts, you can get away with alot more stall if needed.

If your cam is small a stock OE vert will work, or for more stall a stock SB 727 vert.

You stated, "Orange Monster" so I guess you want it to be a Sleeper that runs like a Monster.

So I would get a Dynamic 9.5" vert 3800 to 4200. Super vert that works with alot of combos street and strip, IMO. Around $600

Re: What stall? [Re: Sport440] #1619971
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Quote:

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Project Orange Monster #4 is underway

This motor will be a RB 505ci with E RPM heads, hyd roller, Indy dp intake, 3:23 gear 3450 pounds with me in it. 90% street driven


What stall would be good for this combo??

Thanks




Whats the duration on the cam?? Comp??

With todays much more efficient verts, you can get away with alot more stall if needed.

If your cam is small a stock OE vert will work, or for more stall a stock SB 727 vert.

You stated, "Orange Monster" so I guess you want it to be a Sleeper that runs like a Monster.

So I would get a Dynamic 9.5" vert 3800 to 4200. Super vert that works with alot of combos street and strip, IMO. Around $600




He has a 9.5" now.. they are gonna tighten it up some..
that will be way less than $600

Re: What stall? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1619972
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Why would I spend 600 bucks when PTC will freshen up and adjust the stall for my new engine combo on my current torque converter for less than half of 6 bills

Re: What stall? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1619973
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I run a Lupo-Dynamic that was custom built for my combo. The guys at Dynamic were great to work with. As said above, your best bet is going to be to call a converter company and talk to them about what you're doing. They should help you.

While you're at it..... lose the hyd. roller.





I'll ask... why dump the hyd roller... have you ever
run one... I have a solid roller in my street ride
and plan on a hyd roller.. if I stay with this engine





Because I believe its the lowest bang per buck you could choose. You're going to be into it well over a grand for just cam & lifters, and chances are it wont perform on par with a solid flat tappet at a third of the cost. I'm sure it will work just fine and if money is no object, fire away. Just considering how much you will spend, its not the direction I'd go with a big-inch RB.


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Re: What stall? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1619974
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Because I believe its the lowest bang per buck you could choose. You're going to be into it well over a grand for just cam & lifters, and chances are it wont perform on par with a solid flat tappet at a third of the cost. I'm sure it will work just fine and if money is no object, fire away. Just considering how much you will spend, its not the direction I'd go with a big-inch RB.




So you have never run one... and your just guessing
on the performance aspect... I'm well aware of the
price end of it but I think it would be fine for my
street/strip SB

Re: What stall? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1619975
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If my new hyd roller cam does not out perform my current solid flat tappet cam you will be the first to know

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Because I believe its the lowest bang per buck you could choose. You're going to be into it well over a grand for just cam & lifters, and chances are it wont perform on par with a solid flat tappet at a third of the cost. I'm sure it will work just fine and if money is no object, fire away. Just considering how much you will spend, its not the direction I'd go with a big-inch RB.




So you have never run one... and your just guessing
on the performance aspect... I'm well aware of the
price end of it but I think it would be fine for my
street/strip SB





Since you're being picky, Mike... I'll point out that I never said it wouldn't work. It will obviously work just fine. "working just fine", as you said, isn't quite what I would hope for when spending that kind of money. Thats my point, and its a point that would be shared by many.

Back to the OP, I'm glad you found a good solution for the converter question! sounds like you'll have a converter tailored to your combo for a very reasonable cost!


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Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619977
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Why would I spend 600 bucks when PTC will freshen up and adjust the stall for my new engine combo on my current torque converter for less than half of 6 bills




Even though my post was 29 minutes after yours, I did not see that you had a 9.5 Vert already. There was no info on that as I saw.

If its a Dynamic 9.5 your golden, I dont think you need to do anything. Those Verts are pretty dan tight until you romp on them good.

I wouldnt waste any money tightening it up. Unless it needs refreshed or something.

Re: What stall? [Re: StealthWedge67] #1619978
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Because I believe its the lowest bang per buck you could choose. You're going to be into it well over a grand for just cam & lifters, and chances are it wont perform on par with a solid flat tappet at a third of the cost. I'm sure it will work just fine and if money is no object, fire away. Just considering how much you will spend, its not the direction I'd go with a big-inch RB.




So you have never run one... and your just guessing
on the performance aspect... I'm well aware of the
price end of it but I think it would be fine for my
street/strip SB





Since you're being picky, Mike... I'll point out that I never said it wouldn't work. It will obviously work just fine. "working just fine", as you said, isn't quite what I would hope for when spending that kind of money. Thats my point, and its a point that would be shared by many.

Back to the OP, I'm glad you found a good solution for the converter question! sounds like you'll have a converter tailored to your combo for a very reasonable cost!





Since I'm being picky.. according to you.. you didnt
answer the question... have you ever ran a hyd roller
or not.. yeah, maybe you wont spent the money but
its your guess on the power... am I correct... I'm
looking at a Bullet hyd roller... but if you know for
fact that it doesnt make the power of a FT cam then
maybe I should look else where.... I'm talking lift
to lift and the other things on any cam.... thanks
if you can help me out.... I have a solid roller in
it now and it a bit noisey

Re: What stall? [Re: ccdave] #1619979
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Quote:

Project Orange Monster #4 is underway

This motor will be a RB 505ci with E RPM heads, hyd roller, Indy dp intake, 3:23 gear 3450 pounds with me in it. 90% street driven


What stall would be good for this combo??

Thanks


3800 flash works well on the street with 3.23's...and is tite enough at 60mph for some mpg etc..you won't loose the burn out contest...get a name brand. Call your specs in.


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