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Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? #1613777
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I am getting a new oil pan for my small block to replace my kevko pan (Barely holds 5 quarts in the pan!). In specific I am looking at the Milodon 8 quart pan (p# 30940) and the 7 quart low pro version (p#30941). My Kevko pan from top rail to the bottom of the sump is 8".

The 8 quart Milodon is 8-3/4". The 7 quart is 7-3/4", so slightly shorter then my Kevko. There is a drastic difference in price, with the low pro pan being more expensive (and also having a raised rear portion behind the sump which seems strange to me as it might trap oil, but according to Milodon helps oil control?).

I am struggling in deciding which pan to go with. I don't think another 3/4 of an inch will give me any clearance issues, and both pans are SUPPOSED to clear my TTI 1-7/8 race headers. I am wondering what others are running, what their ground clearance is like, and more importantly, if the insides of the pans are different at all? I don't mind spending the extra money on the low pro IF the oil control inside is better (and the shorter height overall is obviously a bonus also).

Here is a link to the Milodon website (the sb pans are at the bottom of this page)
http://www.milodon.com/oil-pans/street-oil-pans-chrys.asp

Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613778
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I am using a Milodon pan and TTIs with no issues. Very happy with everything so far. I am fairly low in front with no issues for clearance so far, well aside from the headers dragging on the trailer stuff.

edit* I should add that it is the 8 qt. Drag car only.

Last edited by Dartthunder340; 04/29/14 09:55 PM.

Better get inside Ma. Looks like a storm's comin'.
Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: Dartthunder340] #1613779
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My old hookers tended to drag on the trailer (The collectors) but the new TTi's should be better.

Here is a pic of the ground clearance I had with the kevko...as I said, I don't think 3/4 of an inch will make much of a difference, but I am also concerned about the internal design of the pans.

What is the 8qt like on the inside?


Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613780
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I have the 7 quart in what appears to be an older version. Mine does not have that little kick up area behind the sump, its flat there. Clears my TTI headers with zero trouble but did require a small notch on flat lip of the K-frame nothing major.

My car sits pretty low and I would be afraid to go to the deeper pan. Mainly because I live in Oklahoma and our roads are terrible.


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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: Bad340fish] #1613781
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Quote:

I have the 7 quart in what appears to be an older version. Mine does not have that little kick up area behind the sump, its flat there. Clears my TTI headers with zero trouble but did require a small notch on flat lip of the K-frame nothing major.

My car sits pretty low and I would be afraid to go to the deeper pan. Mainly because I live in Oklahoma and our roads are terrible.




I should have mentioned I sectioned a section out of my k-frame back when I first assembled the car, so this pan should clear with no problems.

Our roads are torn up here pretty bad also. I have thought about lowering my car a tad more once I switch to the TTI's this year (they might tuck up tighter then the hookers I had pictured) but I am fine with the ride height as is.

Do you have a pic of the 7 quart pan on your car to get an idea of ground clearance??

Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613782
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Quickest reference I could find.


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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: Bad340fish] #1613783
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Quickest reference I could find.




That pic definitely does help

And you weren't kidding when you said your car is low lol

Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613784
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yeah, it looks cool but needs to be higher. I keep putting off buying new mono springs(has -1s on it now).


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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: Bad340fish] #1613785
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I'm not 100% on this, but I think my pan is the 7 quart low profile version (it has been too many years since I bought it).

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mil-30941/overview/make/plymouth

Ground clearance was fine, but I had to "massage" the passenger side of the pan with a hammer and torch to get it to clear my headers....also had to notch the k-frame about 1". Here is the only picture I can find of the pan...it doesn't hang down much (see link).

http://motolenzphotos.com/dragracing/Mopar-Cut/P2Street-Trophy/IMG_7535.JPG


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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613786
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Ever consider sending it back to Kevco and have them change it? I had mine modified to clear my steering rack when I ordered from them. Just sent them a few measurements.

Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613787
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Go w/ the low profile pan. 1" is huge when it comes to oil pan ground clearance on a street driven car.

I had a deep sump Milodon pan on my Hemi...at the time I built the motor they didn't make a low profile pan for the external p/u systems. After smashing it up a few times I got tired of repairing it.
Last year when I freshened it up I bought a new low profile pan for it. Very happy I did.


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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1613788
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Quote:

Go w/ the low profile pan. 1" is huge when it comes to oil pan ground clearance on a street driven car.

I had a deep sump Milodon pan on my Hemi...at the time I built the motor they didn't make a low profile pan for the external p/u systems. After smashing it up a few times I got tired of repairing it.
Last year when I freshened it up I bought a new low profile pan for it. Very happy I did.




Really would depend on the headers... if the headers
are lower than the pan then it doesnt matter.. I tend
to build my headers to protect the pan... I build my
pans and headers so I can replace either but I dont
want the pan getting ripped open.. this is on my Rampage
and I built a 9 qt pan... baffles and trap doors inside it

Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1613789
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The headers won't be a factor if you scrape a crown in the road.


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
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'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1613790
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Quote:

The headers won't be a factor if you scrape a crown in the road.




I cant drive stupid... I do have to watch the road
but thats what you get when you build a LOW car... so
far driving it on Mich BAD roads its not been a problem
EDIT
I was going to build a belly pan but I decided to
raise the car up 1" so thats what I'm working on now

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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1613791
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Down here we get bad crowns and ruts on a lot of the roads at redlights due to the summer heat and beach traffic. In some areas they are unavoidable. In that type of situation, the headers will not be any help shielding the pan.

All depends on how low your car is and what type of roads you drive on. I'll take the shortest possible pan.


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'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1613792
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The Milodon low pro pan isn't that low

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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan? [Re: mshred] #1613793
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I run the 30940. Had to notch the K member in my application. Hangs just below the K member also. The center link just touches the back of the pan on hard ( lock to lock ) turns.

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QUOTE - (and also having a raised rear portion behind the sump which seems strange to me as it might trap oil, but according to Milodon helps oil control?).

That bugs me, too. I have that pan on the shelf slated to go on my motor but even if it does control oil, the oil in that area will never get drained when changing it.

I just bought a Kevko 5 quart for a 340 I'm doing for someone and was actually considering it for my deal rather than the Milodon. I have heard from others about sucking that pan dry though with a high volume pump, so we're going with a standard volume pump with a small shim to gain some pressure.

Which pump did you run with your Kevko pan, might I ask?

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I ran my car for the first time last weekend with the Canton oil pan I bought from Summit. Its the same depth as the wedge shaped Milidon pan I rep[laced but I wouldn't of had to beat the crap out of my Headmen headers if I would have bought this one years ago.



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