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Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: RJS] #1610907 04/23/14 07:47 PM 04/23/14 07:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	So what's the recourse ??? Can you dispute it with paypal? eBay? Chrysler ???

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ademon] #1610908 04/23/14 08:21 PM 04/23/14 08:21 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,019 Washington/Las Vegas 1971 Gran Coupe super stock
1971 Gran Coupe super stock Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,019 Washington/Las Vegas	I was given an in person education from Scott on the difference in parts, and once you see the difference you will never forget. Scotts pictures are very clear and informative. It appears, the guy on ebay is selling re-pops as NOS, ask him a question and see if he blocks you too. Buyer beware! It never hurts to do a dispute if you think the item was misrepresented. Be prepared to submit a letter from someone with knowledge and ability to distinguish an NOS versus the repops.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 1971 Gran Coupe] #1610909 04/23/14 11:12 PM 04/23/14 11:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,145 ontario calif N ns1aar super stock
ns1aar super stock N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,145 ontario calif	The pentastar is orientated different on the repos NS1AAR

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ns1aar] #1610910 04/23/14 11:48 PM 04/23/14 11:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: The pentastar is orientated different on the repos Correct, as is the Chrysler part# stamping and font style.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1610911 04/24/14 12:37 AM 04/24/14 12:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,250 North Carolina 4 469runner pro stock
469runner pro stock 4 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,250 North Carolina	I have never had a satisfactory experience with Brads NOS parts. I bought a non telescoping antenna mast for a 1970 Cuda NOS, paid a good bit for it too, it wouldn't screw in. Checked it out...metric threads. He stole money from me on that one. Another time years later needed an air-grabber actuator. $120.00 seemed fair. I get it and it is a $25.00 at best 1968-69 Charger headlight door actuator. He knows the difference, just trying to rip folks off. I sent it back and got my money refunded on that one, but seriously I believe he is hoping people won't notice the difference. Stay away from Brads, and Jims, and Frank Mitchell. This hobby doesn't need people like that.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 469runner] #1610912 04/24/14 01:18 AM 04/24/14 01:18 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 271 MO, USA Tom Hand enthusiast
Tom Hand enthusiast Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 271 MO, USA	Back when you could get them, I bought three new sets from McCord I think and I got the pass side too. Look closely and you can see it on mine. This would have been back in 1979-1980 or so and I think we were paying mabe $15 for them?? 8122588-DSCN7354.JPG (102 downloads) Last edited by Tom Hand; 04/24/14 01:20 AM.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 469runner] #1610913 04/24/14 09:47 AM 04/24/14 09:47 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: I have never had a satisfactory experience with Brads NOS parts. I bought... Years ago, I had good dealings with Brads. The last few years I have had a drastic decline in satisfaction in dealing with them and have stopped going to them altogether now. Was there a change several years ago in ownership or something or did greed simply kick in?

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: Commando1] #1610914 04/24/14 10:35 AM 04/24/14 10:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla. 5 5carguy top fuel
5carguy top fuel 5 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,404 Lee Co. Fla.	I think greed kicked in.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ek2aar] #1610915 04/24/14 12:03 PM 04/24/14 12:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: That's his grimy hand right there! He knows who he is, I know he is reading this post! I bought a case of six of those at Carlisle 15 yrs ago for $150,if my memory hasn't failed too much,I am pretty sure the original application was 65/66 273 4 spd,still have one left if I can find it.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 62maxwgn] #1610916 04/24/14 01:08 PM 04/24/14 01:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 44 long island n.y. E ek2aar member
ek2aar member E Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 44 long island n.y.	Same guy has so called "original" distributors also, same deal, boloney distributors with ta id tags! He went the extra mile and tried to add some patina to the repop tag to make it look "original" lol 8122915-DSC00011.JPG (158 downloads) Last edited by ek2aar; 04/24/14 01:11 PM.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ek2aar] #1610917 04/24/14 01:09 PM 04/24/14 01:09 PM
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ek2aar member E Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 44 long island n.y.	Its sad that someone doesn't have enough skill or knowledge to make an honest living and has to resort to trying to steal an honest man's hard earned money, I believe that what goes around comes around, and with that being said, its only a matter of time ! 8122917-DSC00012.JPG (89 downloads) Last edited by ek2aar; 04/24/14 02:49 PM.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ek2aar] #1610918 04/24/14 02:34 PM 04/24/14 02:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Its sad that someone doesn't have enough skill or knowledge to make an honest living and has to resort to trying to steal an honest man's hard earned money, I believe that what goes around comes around, and with that being said, its only matter of time ! You decide which one ! 8123013-Picture278.jpg (130 downloads)

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 62maxwgn] #1610919 04/25/14 02:20 PM 04/25/14 02:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut 1972CudaV21 master
1972CudaV21 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut	Brad's used to be a good source for NOS parts years ago. But, when the NOS stuff started drying up, I guess the greed from having parts made in China kicked in. Some vendors do the same thing on here as well.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1610920 04/25/14 03:18 PM 04/25/14 03:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana D Dave Watt master
Dave Watt master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana	I got burned by an NOS dealer that had the 1969 B-body washer bottle. At the time, the reproductions had the lid opening the wrong direction. So I paid double for the "NOS" one. Come to find out, this "F"ing dealer was one of the first to get the correct opening reproductions. Also, I'm seeing a lot of "NOS" diecast emblems at swap meets lately. They are just in clear plastic bags. I have a feeling they are current reproductions that have the Pentastar and correct part number cast into them.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: Dave Watt] #1610921 04/25/14 08:50 PM 04/25/14 08:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut 1972CudaV21 master
1972CudaV21 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut	Quote: I got burned by an NOS dealer that had the 1969 B-body washer bottle. At the time, the reproductions had the lid opening the wrong direction. So I paid double for the "NOS" one. Come to find out, this "F"ing dealer was one of the first to get the correct opening reproductions. Also, I'm seeing a lot of "NOS" diecast emblems at swap meets lately. They are just in clear plastic bags. I have a feeling they are current reproductions that have the Pentastar and correct part number cast into them. There are a lot of things going on like this in the Mopar restoration arena. Unfortunately, a lot of people are getting ripped-off by some vendors. Plus, all these "Authentic" items licensed by Chrysler/Daimler/Fiat - they've tossed in a lot of inferior products on the market too. I wish Chrysler/Fiat would do a better job of monitoring these products.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1610922 04/27/14 09:39 AM 04/27/14 09:39 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: I wish Chrysler/Fiat would do a better job of monitoring these products. NO! You do not want that. 75% of the repop products would dry up and the remaining ones will double in price. Ask any Harley owner... Licensing can be both good and evil.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1610923 04/27/14 12:41 PM 04/27/14 12:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 217 Roseburg, Oregon T Tom Swope enthusiast
Tom Swope enthusiast T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 217 Roseburg, Oregon	Quote: Quote: I got burned by an NOS dealer that had the 1969 B-body washer bottle. At the time, the reproductions had the lid opening the wrong direction. So I paid double for the "NOS" one. Come to find out, this "F"ing dealer was one of the first to get the correct opening reproductions. Also, I'm seeing a lot of "NOS" diecast emblems at swap meets lately. They are just in clear plastic bags. I have a feeling they are current reproductions that have the Pentastar and correct part number cast into them. There are a lot of things going on like this in the Mopar restoration arena. Unfortunately, a lot of people are getting ripped-off by some vendors. Plus, all these "Authentic" items licensed by Chrysler/Daimler/Fiat - they've tossed in a lot of inferior products on the market too. I wish Chrysler/Fiat would do a better job of monitoring these products. My experience with Chrysler licensing is that Chrysler uses a subcontractor to facilitate the after market license process. They are happy to collect an up front fee for each product and a percentage of each part sold. The manufacturer bears all costs up front and the ongoing perpetual percentage on the licensed part. The process is more of a marketing approach and not so much how accurate the part follows the original design.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: Commando1] #1610924 04/27/14 01:54 PM 04/27/14 01:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut 1972CudaV21 master
1972CudaV21 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,267 Connecticut	Quote: Quote: I wish Chrysler/Fiat would do a better job of monitoring these products. NO! You do not want that. 75% of the repop products would dry up and the remaining ones will double in price. Ask any Harley owner... Licensing can be both good and evil. Tell me the Harley story. I assume they go after anyone without a license?

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1610925 04/27/14 02:24 PM 04/27/14 02:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The best way to del with these issues is for us as a community to let them know that we are on to their crooked antics and that we will not support them or purchase ANYTHING they sell. Make sure they get the reputation they deserve and it will eventually come back to bite them. This is a very small (Mopar) world, a bad reputation will haunt you for a very long time.

Re: NOS 340 Parts - Buyer Beware! This Exhaust Gasket Isn't [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1610926 04/27/14 07:28 PM 04/27/14 07:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Fort Worth, Texas xs29j8 master
xs29j8 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,624 Fort Worth, Texas	There are a lot of parts misrepresented on eBay, Mopar forums, and other Internet websites... and it appears the parts sell eventually with little or no consequence... Here is an example, and I have contacted most of the sellers about the "mistake"... only one actually changed his Ad, and he was a private seller instead of a vendor. 8126238-HemiEmissionsValveVsOthers1a.jpg (166 downloads)

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