ANyone tried these plug wires?
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http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/main.htm There is a lot of information there, good or bad I don't know. I posted a while a question a while back about for opinions on Moroso Ultra 40s verses Firecore's. I hadn't made up my mind yet so I've been doing some reading. My converter should be here next week so I so I need to get off pot so to speak and order some wires. I've found some interesting stuff on wires that I didn't know, which is not surprising as there is a lot I don't know .
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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There is a ton of " voodoo", mystery, and over zealous salesmanship in the spark plug wire industry. The Magnecor stuff is great product, with people that tell it like it is. They are a very unique company, that prefers not to be mainstream, but the quality and knowledge is 100% top notch. There is a lot of bad information out there, almost always 99.5% directed to make you buy ( insert name of wire company here ("their") wires. They bank on people getting all excited about marketing pitches, colors,silicon this and that, trick boots and "XX" mm wire.I used to know a guy on a top fuel team that loved telling the story of how they got a supplier to GIVE them wires for free.( Which is quite common with these teams) Hell, if the wires would/could only lasted one run, why would they care, they got them free anyhow. They would put on whatever you wanted, and then the supplier could advertise accordingly. There goal is almost always to sell a set of wires regardless of the real need. Sell baby sell. We need a smoke and mirrors graemiln now....
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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There is a ton of " voodoo", mystery, and over zealous salesmanship in the spark plug wire industry.
That's what I'm trying to wade through, almost anyone selling something is going to tell you theirs is the best. I don't really care what the fuel guys run, their apples to my oranges .
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I don't care about, nor fall for the "smoke and mirrors" games, but I have run LOTS of different wires over the years and I will say this..............In this age of electronics and EFI, RFI noise is your biggest concern with wires. So far the BEST wire I have ever run in this type application is the Firecore 50 wires. And YES, Rick GAVE me the first set I ever tried to put on an EFI car I was having issues with. But I have BOUGHT several sets since then and will continue to do so.
Some wires, I won't mention brands, are regarded as some of the BEST wires you can get and are probably some of the most popular as well. But I have seen MANY problems, solved on MANY cars, by taking these "popular" wires off and replacing them with Firecores.
Monte
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I don't care about, nor fall for the "smoke and mirrors" games, but I have run LOTS of different wires over the years and I will say this..............In this age of electronics and EFI, RFI noise is your biggest concern with wires. So far the BEST wire I have ever run in this type application is the Firecore 50 wires. And YES, Rick GAVE me the first set I ever tried to put on an EFI car I was having issues with. But I have BOUGHT several sets since then and will continue to do so.
Some wires, I won't mention brands, are regarded as some of the BEST wires you can get and are probably some of the most popular as well. But I have seen MANY problems, solved on MANY cars, by taking these "popular" wires off and replacing them with Firecores.
Monte
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I don't care about, nor fall for the "smoke and mirrors" games, but I have run LOTS of different wires over the years and I will say this..............In this age of electronics and EFI, RFI noise is your biggest concern with wires. So far the BEST wire I have ever run in this type application is the Firecore 50 wires. And YES, Rick GAVE me the first set I ever tried to put on an EFI car I was having issues with. But I have BOUGHT several sets since then and will continue to do so.
Some wires, I won't mention brands, are regarded as some of the BEST wires you can get and are probably some of the most popular as well. But I have seen MANY problems, solved on MANY cars, by taking these "popular" wires off and replacing them with Firecores.
Monte
So Monty you've actually ran Magnecor wires? 8.5mm or 10mm?
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I don't care about, nor fall for the "smoke and mirrors" games, but I have run LOTS of different wires over the years and I will say this..............In this age of electronics and EFI, RFI noise is your biggest concern with wires. So far the BEST wire I have ever run in this type application is the Firecore 50 wires. And YES, Rick GAVE me the first set I ever tried to put on an EFI car I was having issues with. But I have BOUGHT several sets since then and will continue to do so.
Some wires, I won't mention brands, are regarded as some of the BEST wires you can get and are probably some of the most popular as well. But I have seen MANY problems, solved on MANY cars, by taking these "popular" wires off and replacing them with Firecores.
Monte
Great endorsement - all the others I have tried ( or seen ) didn't work as good?????
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I don't care about, nor fall for the "smoke and mirrors" games, but I have run LOTS of different wires over the years and I will say this..............In this age of electronics and EFI, RFI noise is your biggest concern with wires. So far the BEST wire I have ever run in this type application is the Firecore 50 wires. And YES, Rick GAVE me the first set I ever tried to put on an EFI car I was having issues with. But I have BOUGHT several sets since then and will continue to do so.
Some wires, I won't mention brands, are regarded as some of the BEST wires you can get and are probably some of the most popular as well. But I have seen MANY problems, solved on MANY cars, by taking these "popular" wires off and replacing them with Firecores.
Monte
So, what you're saying is that they're not worth any power, correct? (That's the question I think most people want to know)...
If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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You have to remember what the function of a plug wire is. It simply carries the charge from the coil to the plug, through the dist cap. The ignition box and the coil is where power is, NOT THE WIRE. You could run coat hangers from your dist cap to the plugs and fire the motor..........Now what makes a GOOD wire, is ability to carry as much spark energy as possible, not give off huge amounts of RFI while doing it and also not breaking down while doing it.
Remember when "solid core" wires were the hot ticket..........well they likely still would be if it wasn't for RFI noise. So the goal is to do the job of a solid core and contain the RFI like a resistor wire. A tough task. As I already said, in MY testing, the Firecore works best.
I have been at this for over 30 years. I have tried or at least seen most every "trick of the week" wire and plug over that time. You know, like the magic "split fires" that were good for 20hp and an extra couple miles per gallon..........yeah, right. Plugs and wires serve a very SIMPLE purpose.....remember that when reading all the hype.
Monte
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I have an engine dyno that can repeat all day long. I have a set of firecores that i have thrown on a few engines at the end of a dyno session and the least amount of power I found is 1.5HP. I am totally sold on the wires.
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Re: ANyone tried these plug wires?
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I don't care about, nor fall for the "smoke and mirrors" games, but I have run LOTS of different wires over the years and I will say this..............In this age of electronics and EFI, RFI noise is your biggest concern with wires. So far the BEST wire I have ever run in this type application is the Firecore 50 wires. And YES, Rick GAVE me the first set I ever tried to put on an EFI car I was having issues with. But I have BOUGHT several sets since then and will continue to do so.
Some wires, I won't mention brands, are regarded as some of the BEST wires you can get and are probably some of the most popular as well. But I have seen MANY problems, solved on MANY cars, by taking these "popular" wires off and replacing them with Firecores.
Monte
So, what you're saying is that they're not worth any power, correct? (That's the question I think most people want to know)...
wouldn't you think if you reduced noise you may gain a little hp in some application like , Monte says?
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