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Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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Has anyone ever had custom wheels made? If so, what company did you use and what did you pay? I have been thinking about having billet wheels made for my car using a design that I offer. Assuming changes might have to be made for integrity. Has anybody used Bonspeed wheels? It looks like they offer the service. I think they are at www.bonspeedwheels.com
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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I have... I've had billet ones done, and priced up a few times to have a mold made for cast centers as well. Latest price for a mold for cast ones was going to be about $6000 from memory for the mold itself then you are looking at around $140ish per center to have them poured and machined after that. For billet centers..I had got a deal a while back on some billet blanks. They are pretty much the same ones most of the billet wheel companies use. They were around 23" in diameter and just get machined down to the finished size you want. (I was dealing in 18" and 20" stuff) The centers on a deal were about $140 each off hand. Normally believe they around $200 - 250, give or take. Some had done at the same company I got the forged/road race wheels built for my Torana for..Spinwerkes, but they are not doing them any longer. Also have used Oasis Wheel out here. They do cast molds and pouring on site and also have all the CNC machines to do the billet centers as well. He would do a from scratch deal with your design and just charged a setup/program fee for the CNC machine then just the labor to cut them out which took a few hours each easily (again from memory) Also could get a style he already made copied or modified to howe wanted it as well. His customer service and turn around time was/is Terrible though  as seems to be the case with a lot of the custom wheel guys around here (and there is a decent number of them being built out this way.) Outers for 2 piece wheels come from one main place for the most part no matter the custom wheel company using them.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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Bolt pattern changes is not that hard either (depending on how far apart that is) have had it done a ton of times. Size wise...if it is only one size up or down, sometimes you can mix and match centers made for soft lip or standard outers the other way around and make things work where they were not designed.  Have a pic or description of just what you want to do... ? Might know someone or have a way to do what you want perhaps..
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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I have had "semi customs" made in 2 piece wheels. Most or all of the major aftermarket wheel manufactures will make wheels on order with whatever backspace you want.
After lots of measuring I had a set of American Racing Salt Flat Specials made for an E with custom backspace to get best fit with wide 17" tires. There was not an extra charge (from memory), just extra time. There is usually a form on their website with information needed for the custom.
Changing back spacing is piece of cake.. I was talking about centers from scratch basically..either CNC cut billet blanks or cast then finish machined...or even altering existing ones. 
(Had got a pile of Boyd magneto centers once I remember, and we had the little lips/edges machined flat to create a flat spoke wheel...just for the heck of it )
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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I had a set of custom Fikse wheels made for my '65 Coronet years ago. I think it cost about $4000 for the rims.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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Hey Oz, I will shoot you an email with details
Got it.
I'll do some asking around for you.
I know the one guy could probably do them, but he is too flakey for me to even bother mentioning him to you.
And, can't think of anything like those off the shelf that could be modified.
But, a billet blank could be machined in that style, just would have to scale up the openings so they looked "right".
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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Hey Oz, I will shoot you an email with details
Got it.
I'll do some asking around for you.
I know the one guy could probably do them, but he is too flakey for me to even bother mentioning him to you.
And, can't think of anything like those off the shelf that could be modified.
But, a billet blank could be machined in that style, just would have to scale up the openings so they looked "right".
Thanks Jeff, any info would be appreciated
I was thinking the same thing. Should be very doable on the CNC without any crazy engineering.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
[Re: Finoke]
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Yep, just a matter of getting someone to do it in a decent time frame is all. Have to see what the current price on blank centers is also, all the 'deal' ones I had got...were used.   They would be a 2 piece wheel too obviously, not a 1 piece cast like the originals. Which would at least leave you wide open for any back spacing you'd like, and if you ever damaged one (curbed, etc) makes it easy to repair. There are 1 pieced blanks (outer and center is a set piece basically) in larger diameter..20", 22" ,etc...(18" too probably) but price is pretty up there.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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Used BOZE out of California. With a narrowed rear end they gave me exactly what I wanted. Diameter, width, back spacing, color, design- everything spec built. They are one offs. $2,500 delivered to the door.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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no experience with something that's a totally custom design, but the wheels I have on my truck are from CCW (Complete Custom Wheel) they offer a bunch of different styles where they've done the design and structural integrity work, then offer them in various bolt patterns, diameters, widths and offsets/backspacings. so you pick the style/design you like, then have them build them to your specs. They run around $600-700 for each wheel. Here's a few examples:   
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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Used BOZE out of California. With a narrowed rear end they gave me exactly what I wanted. Diameter, width, back spacing, color, design- everything spec built. They are one offs. $2,500 delivered to the door.
So you drew up the wheel and they cut the centers to match? That is a pretty cheap deal in that case.
If they are just a wheel they make normally, just painted and what not, that is pretty common then I think.
I was talking about an actual custom made center from either your own designed mold or drawing cut one off basically. (as is the original poster)
Custom back spacing and finishes is easy and every billet wheel company out there does that pretty much now a days.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
[Re: Finoke]
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My common sense says that even if each billet blank was $1000 each and replicating my design was a day of work ($1000). Then another $1000 for the machining and welding. I would say a set could be done for 5 or 6 grand.
But I bet I will get quotes upward of that 
If so, I won't have it done
Shouldn't be any where near that high...
You might as well have molds made for that sort of money and do cast centers and make all you want.
The grand should cover nearly all 4 blanks I would hazard a guess at.
I can't remember how much the cnc bill was for the last batch to machine them..sorry 
The outers, in 17" like you mentioned will be around the $100 - $130 each area.
Then just a little bit of polish for the centers and them all together.
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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My common sense says that even if each billet blank was $1000 each and replicating my design was a day of work ($1000). Then another $1000 for the machining and welding. I would say a set could be done for 5 or 6 grand.
But I bet I will get quotes upward of that
If so, I won't have it done
Shouldn't be any where near that high...
You might as well have molds made for that sort of money and do cast centers and make all you want.
The grand should cover nearly all 4 blanks I would hazard a guess at.
I can't remember how much the cnc bill was for the last batch to machine them..sorry
The outers, in 17" like you mentioned will be around the $100 - $130 each area.
Then just a little bit of polish for the centers and them all together.
That would be good if it was less. I guess its just finding a place that will want to do it. Then do a quality job in a timely manner. Nothing worse then bugging a vender for a year to get your parts
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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I had some centers made by the one guy, and he was supposed to make matching center caps. That was only a year ago. (had some made in Oz in the end that worked out fine)
Exactly
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Re: Has anyone had custom wheels made?
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I had some centers made by the one guy, and he was supposed to make matching center caps. That was only a year ago. (had some made in Oz in the end that worked out fine)
Exactly
Tell me about it.. I have been dealing with that sort of thing with wheel people for years and years.
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