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Re: anyone do cadmium cyanide for gold cadded parts?
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03/22/14 11:59 AM
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So what is the difference between zinc plating and cadmium plating? And would that effect the shine?
Not sure I comfortable answering this one. But I know they are/were targeted towards corrosion protection differences.
As far as visual differences? Again , not 100% but I think zinc tends to be a tad shiner than cad plated items.But don't quote me on that.
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Re: anyone do cadmium cyanide for gold cadded parts?
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03/22/14 12:30 PM
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Bill,
So what is the difference between zinc plating and cadmium plating? And would that effect the shine?
Not sure I comfortable answering this one. But I know they are/were targeted towards corrosion protection differences.
As far as visual differences? Again , not 100% but I think zinc tends to be a tad shiner than cad plated items.But don't quote me on that.
Within the plating industry the move has been to Zinc as it is environmentally more friendly, CAD is still the choice within the aviation industry for several reasons as it's corrosion protection under standardized salt spray tests are superior to zinc, as well as other benefits over zinc particularly when placed in contact with aluminum (galvanic compatibility for fasteners). Due to the fact corrosion within aviation drives maintenance fees and pose safety issues, I have not seen any push to move away from CAD.
Only to the trained eye (someone who works regularly with CAD and ZINC would you be able to tell the difference between the two, assuming they are processed identically (base material finish and brighteners or not) as both are shades of grey in color.
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Re: anyone do cadmium cyanide for gold cadded parts?
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03/22/14 12:47 PM
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Ok, thank you AAR#2. Taking the pics I posted as examples, what would you say about them plating wise? hit, miss, strike out, home run, compared to originals or OE basis?
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Re: anyone do cadmium cyanide for gold cadded parts?
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03/22/14 01:41 PM
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Ok, thank you AAR#2. Taking the pics I posted as examples, what would you say about them plating wise? hit, miss, strike out, home run, compared to originals or OE basis?
While pictures can be difficult due to lighting and reflection, I would say the pictures you posted appear typical of what one would expect to see for plating as delivered by Chrysler.
FYI, It appears the first photo may have used brighteners and or a better surface finish to start, and the 2nd of the wiper barrel appears to have no iridescent finish (or very little)
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Re: anyone do cadmium cyanide for gold cadded parts?
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03/22/14 02:32 PM
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Ok, thank you AAR#2. Taking the pics I posted as examples, what would you say about them plating wise? hit, miss, strike out, home run, compared to originals or OE basis?
While pictures can be difficult due to lighting and reflection, I would say the pictures you posted appear typical of what one would expect to see for plating as delivered by Chrysler.
FYI, It appears the first photo may have used brighteners and or a better surface finish to start, and the 2nd of the wiper barrel appears to have no iridescent finish (or very little)
Ok, good to know! The horn and starter relay did seem to have some more shine to them when I had sent them off as the areas where they were mounted to the rad support and firewall were in great shape but the rest had oxidation take its toll. The finish of the barrel of the wiper motor is the exact same sheen as before it was replated and did have a lot less of the "rainbow" effect compared to the relay housings.
Everything was in perfect condition prior to being sent out for replating rust or pit wise. Below is the parts prior to sending them out for replating. All of the smaller things like the carb linkage and such were soaked in carb cleaner when I was cleaning up the carb as there was paint and other garf all over them. This ended up stripping the plating off. The power steering pressure hose is the original one off the car and has the penta star, part number, and correct date coding too. They were able to replate that without damaging the rubber hose.
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Re: anyone do cadmium cyanide for gold cadded parts?
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03/23/14 01:53 PM
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Plate list from Moparts
I'll add to this Galvanizing
side maker mounting plates (4) fuel tank straps (2) fuel filler tube - I BELIEVE ORIGINALS WERE LEAD TIN PLATED rear license plate bracket floor pan metal plugs headlight buckets (2) rear muffler shields (2)
Zinc Plating (silver)
heater motor housing (2 halves) voltage regulator mounting screws heater hose bracket (bolted to cyl. head) trunk latch + striker plate trunk rod + hardware (2 links + 2 clips) spare tire hold down rod + wing nut E-brake pull handle coil bracket + clamp screw trunk light bracket rear licence plate bracket pin windshield wiper motor mounting nuts bottom plate of radio ashtray heater box mounting nuts -SHOULD BE YELLOW ZINC-DICHROMATE gas tank sending unit retainer ring brake light switch bracket HL dimmer switch screws carb idle solenoid + bracket + screws -I HAVE AN ORIGINAL BRKT AND IT APPEARS TO BE NATURAL BARE STEEL dash mounting bolts on sides fender/door splash shield screws console door hinge console door latch motor mount bolts long + washers (2)WASHERS ARE PHOSPHATE DS air vent cable clip + screw - CLIP SHOULD BE DARK PHOSPHATE tail light studs + wiring clip (1) steering column lower clip front turn signal lens screws heater box screws (hold 2 halves together) radio mounting bracket radio to dash frame screws (2) PW circuit breaker housing - MINE WAS YELLOW ZINC DICHROMATE wiring harness clips (above master cyl) (2) wiper pivots (2)SHLOUD BE NATRUAL ALUMINUM door latches inside door handle screws - SHOULD BE DARK PHOSPHATE rear muffler shield screws door lock lever screws window up-stops inside door (4) glove box catch (bolts to dash frame) door striker pins (2) + spacers (6) oil drain plug - NOT SO SURE ON THIS ONE fuel + brake line shields fan / water pump pulley bolts map light nut (1) horn relay housing - MINE WAS YELLOW ZINC vent cable screws (4) cigarette lighter shell ash tray light wiring harness ground bolt (near battery) interior rear side panel L-brackets (2) fuel / brake line clips (6) + screws (12) jack hold down spring mirror cable bracket inside door window track bracket in bottom of door (2) E-brake cable equalizer bracket + nut - NUT WAS RED ZINC tail light sockets (2) rear spoiler nuts (new) (4) coil wire nuts starter bolts (2) rear window up-stops (2) inside mirror screw, allen head seat bumper washers (2) glove box latch screws
Zinc dichromate (gold)
door latch screws - SHOULD BE CLEAR ZINC door striker pin washers (2) + rollers (2) battery hold-down nuts - SHOULD BE DARK PHOSPHATE SAME AS THE J-BOLTS seat mounting nuts upper shock washers - SHOULD BE CLEAR ZINC throttle cable clamp + nut - NUT IS A CAPTIVE WASHER DARK PHOSPHATE ballast resistor clamp proportioning valve brackets (2) + nut (1)NUT IS RED ZINC SAME AS PARK BRAKE ADJUSTER NUT radio mounting bracket nuts (2) taillight mounting nuts seat belt mounting bolts (10) road lamp relay housing PW relay housing tail light sockets (2) rear bumper bracket washers (8) clutch Z-bar gas tank J-bolts rear spoiler studs (4) dist clamp bolt 3sp wiper motor barrel
Black Zinc
hood latch + hook + catch hood pop-up spring hood latch hardware (10 bolts) windshield wiper motor linkage (2) rear license plate spring (2) speedo cable clip horn mounting bolts windshield wiper pivot bolts license plate holder bolts distributor clamp seat latches (2) seat latch spacers (6) strut rod nuts (2) strut rod washers (4)
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