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You know I LOVE you Steve. I was talking about those OTHER old timers.

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Awwww Ok. But that's it. Love ya BOB. Where's Hemi Fred? Probably walking around Florida wearing knickers and white shoes.

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If you want the most N/A power and would like to be one of the faster mopars on the track, build a wedge. If you don't need to be one of the faster cars, and really would like to have the looks of the hemi for nostalgia reasons, build a hemi. Without boost, hemis need to run much higher RPM's to make power, and high RPM's, wear out parts. Now if you run boost, it's a different story altogether. That's the main difference IMO.

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That is the old school of thought quote right there, and it doesn't neccessarily hold true today...Build a 572 anything, and it should run pretty hard without any boost. No need to spin the big motors up that high unless you want to....

Me, I have one of each...Both run pretty good...Both get a lot of attention because I race in a class where there is primarily chevy's and ford's...Raced weekly, they both need maintenance, but the parts these days are better, so its just a choice....

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It's not old school of thought, it's fact. I've seen both and listened to people racing them, I've run and raced wedges for 28 years, and been around a lot of hemis. They never run quite like the B1's or B1/MC's unless they are of the SS variety, and they take expensive parts, like rocker gear and such. But I have always wanted a hemi too.

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Been building and racing mopars for a few years too, and the wedge has started to come around with all the new heads, but I have to tell you, a 604 Hemi is nothing like any SS motor you will ever drive...Two different schools of thought and two different pocket books.

My next one will be a 572 or bigger....And like I said, both have appeal, but I am partial to Hemi's more than the wedge just for all the hype of my younger years and how rare they used to be....The Duster I drive has been the first high horse power wedge I have really had a chance to run and its come into its own once we figured a few things out...

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If you want the most N/A power and would like to be one of the faster mopars on the track, build a wedge. If you don't need to be one of the faster cars, and really would like to have the looks of the hemi for nostalgia reasons, build a hemi. Without boost, hemis need to run much higher RPM's to make power, and high RPM's, wear out parts. Now if you run boost, it's a different story altogether. That's the main difference IMO.

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That is the old school of thought quote right there, and it doesn't neccessarily hold true today...Build a 572 anything, and it should run pretty hard without any boost. No need to spin the big motors up that high unless you want to....

Me, I have one of each...Both run pretty good...Both get a lot of attention because I race in a class where there is primarily chevy's and ford's...Raced weekly, they both need maintenance, but the parts these days are better, so its just a choice....

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It's not old school of thought, it's fact. I've seen both and listened to people racing them, I've run and raced wedges for 28 years, and been around a lot of hemis. They never run quite like the B1's or B1/MC's unless they are of the SS variety, and they take expensive parts, like rocker gear and such. But I have always wanted a hemi too.

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Been building and racing mopars for a few years too, and the wedge has started to come around with all the new heads, but I have to tell you, a 604 Hemi is nothing like any SS motor you will ever drive...Two different schools of thought and two different pocket books.

My next one will be a 572 or bigger....And like I said, both have appeal, but I am partial to Hemi's more than the wedge just for all the hype of my younger years and how rare they used to be....The Duster I drive has been the first high horse power wedge I have really had a chance to run and its come into its own once we figured a few things out...

I'll agree with most of what you said. When you reference a wedge, what wedge head are you referring to? If your talking about a 572 -1 Indy or something, you're right. If you're talking about a 572 B1, B1/MC, or even a nice set 572-13's, they will make 50-100 more HP than the same size hemi. If you're factor in the Predator head, It will smoke a hemi headed engine of the same size, unless it's the hemi 99. That pretty much smokes them all. I'm a hemi fan believe me. The original hemi NA, just won't qualify for T/D, without a blower....and I have considered that too. I know a lot of TAD guys that will sell that stuff very reasonable. Just sayin....

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I got what I always wanted It's all about the valve covers

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Koleno is out of business and there are no world or Mopar blocks. Our only choice is Indy or KB the Indy is a nice piece and can be had in a couple weeks rather than the KB which could take a year. We could save a couple hundred on Indy heads but the Stage V are better

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The price they quoted for the aluminum build blew my budget. A couple of you PM'ed me with engines that you have for sale and I may end up going this route, but I'm reluctant to spend this kind of money on a private party deal (I don't know many of you personally).

I've decided on the Hemi and at this point I need to add about $5,000 - 10,000 to my budget or start hitting swap meets and try to build one on my own (kind of what I wanted to do anyway).

Thanks for the replies, it helped a lot!!!

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This may be my only option if I want to build "new." I quoted a reply from one of the builders recommended in this thread:

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Koleno is out of business and there are no world or Mopar blocks. Our only choice is Indy or KB the Indy is a nice piece and can be had in a couple weeks rather than the KB which could take a year. We could save a couple hundred on Indy heads but the Stage V are better

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The price they quoted for the aluminum build blew my budget. A couple of you PM'ed me with engines that you have for sale and I may end up going this route, but I'm reluctant to spend this kind of money on a private party deal (I don't know many of you personally).

I've decided on the Hemi and at this point I need to add about $5,000 - 10,000 to my budget or start hitting swap meets and try to build one on my own (kind of what I wanted to do anyway).

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like chip, in 2002 i started to buy parts to build a 572 -13 wedge,i had heads , mopar block callies crank oliver rods indy 2 4 bbl intake then i decided if im going to put all this money in a wedge why not put a HEMI together!! the caliber of engine i was putting together, it was only the valve train money that was more, so i sold the block heads intake ,and replaced it with HEMI stuff best move ive ever made !!! never looked back !!after all a 68 black charger needs HEMI, its kinda slow but its a real street car with street tires and full exhaust (tailpipes)on sheets 93 octane pumpgas SHIFTING at 6800rpms it has gone 9.60s at 142 mph oh ya its only weighs 3910 lbs

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The valvetrain is where the hemi gets you. The other stuff is about the same. I've never regretted building a hemi.

FWIW...there's a good deal on a 572" hemi that made 900 hp that has been on Racingjunk. I think it may have been listed here also...the owner is a member here (64dodge572 is his SN I believe). It's apart and complete except it needs a crankshaft. I think he's asking like 10,500 for it...and all it needs is a crank. Was built at Hemphill's shop in PA.
I just looked through racing junk and didn't see it. It's been for sale for a while, might just not have relisted it.

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