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steering box #1576215 02/08/14 11:36 PM 02/08/14 11:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 242 Richland MI R rvw OP enthusiast
rvw OP enthusiast R Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 242 Richland MI	What color is the power steering box to be? Is it painted low gloss black or left natural?

Re: steering box [Re: rvw] #1576216 02/09/14 12:13 AM 02/09/14 12:13 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,963 Wisconsin Stewpar master
Stewpar master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,963 Wisconsin	Natural Admiration For Multiple Carburetor Vehicles...

Re: steering box [Re: Stewpar] #1576217 02/09/14 12:20 AM 02/09/14 12:20 AM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	My box was black.

Re: steering box [Re: 71birdJ68] #1576218 02/09/14 12:53 AM 02/09/14 12:53 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Cheap black paint which more than likely flaked off due to the poor adhesion at the factory.

Re: steering box [Re: rvw] #1576219 02/09/14 12:55 AM 02/09/14 12:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass DAYCLONA I Live Here
DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass	Quote: What color is the power steering box to be? Is it painted low gloss black or left natural? Factory cheesey gloss black

Re: steering box [Re: DAYCLONA] #1576220 02/09/14 01:24 AM 02/09/14 01:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	There was a guy here who's dad or/and himself worked at the factory that make power steering box assemblies. He said they were all black. Or all supposed to be black, barring something extremely strange happening during production.

Re: steering box [Re: autoxcuda] #1576221 02/09/14 03:17 AM 02/09/14 03:17 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I just cleaned and reinstalled one from a 69 gtx, it was completely caked in grease... there was no paint on it anywhere. This is a 16k original mile car. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: steering box [Re: Silver70] #1576222 02/09/14 12:45 PM 02/09/14 12:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 355 6 68gtx enthusiast
68gtx enthusiast 6 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 355	My 68 GTX has 60k on it all original. The box has no paint on it at all.

Re: steering box [Re: rvw] #1576223 02/09/14 01:09 PM 02/09/14 01:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 242 Richland MI R rvw OP enthusiast
rvw OP enthusiast R Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 242 Richland MI	The car is a 62 LA built Dodge Dart

Re: steering box [Re: rvw] #1576224 02/09/14 04:40 PM 02/09/14 04:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	low miles 69 Dart and 71 Demon built at LA plant have black power steering boxes. The paint was not great on these boxes. And they get covered in oil from leaky power steering components. Same reason drivers side lower control arm bushings go out more than passenger side: power steering fluid leaks on them and eats the rubber up. If you pressure wash or use agressive cleaners, you'll knock the paint right off.

Re: steering box [Re: autoxcuda] #1576225 02/10/14 01:39 PM 02/10/14 01:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada FJ5_Fish pro stock
FJ5_Fish pro stock Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada	x2 They could be either black, black or sometimes black....during the 68-71 era for sure. Can't say on the other years for 100% sure.

Re: steering box [Re: FJ5_Fish] #1576226 02/10/14 03:33 PM 02/10/14 03:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I have a hard time believing they all were black no matter what anyone here says they've heard or read somewhere. Leaf springs are another one that could go either way, but even the rusty ones when black, you can still find traces of paint. The box on the car I mentioned, I have no doubt it was not painted and was never removed, not rusty, etc...

Re: steering box [Re: Silver70] #1576227 02/10/14 03:51 PM 02/10/14 03:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA F FJR doc mopar
FJR doc mopar F Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 499 Brownstown, PA	Perhaps there is confusion regarding power steering and manual boxes. My 1970 Duster 340 with power steering had a black box. I believe that manual boxes were not painted. Follow my Duster 340 restoration progress on FABO http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=225784 Kevin

Re: steering box [Re: Silver70] #1576228 02/10/14 03:58 PM 02/10/14 03:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada FJ5_Fish pro stock
FJ5_Fish pro stock Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada	Quote: I have a hard time believing they all were black no matter what anyone here says they've heard or read somewhere. Leaf springs are another one that could go either way, but even the rusty ones when black, you can still find traces of paint. The box on the car I mentioned, I have no doubt it was not painted and was never removed, not rusty, etc... Well....It has nothing to do with "heard or read". It is based on decades of many here owning many, many cars....and observing hundreds of fine survivors....and networking with a lot of people that have seen and have actively documented many more since the mid to late 70's. But - If anyone wants to leave their power steering box natural....that is their call. We are all here to learn and/or help.

Re: steering box [Re: FJ5_Fish] #1576229 02/10/14 04:24 PM 02/10/14 04:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa	My 73 Challenger's box showed no signs of paint. It was just greasy and rusty. I wire wheeled it years ago and sprayed it with cast blast paint. It started rusting through the paint so my plan was to get it down to bare metal and RPM it. While stripping off the cast blast, I saw a lot of soft black paint on the plastic scraper. Sure enough, there was black paint under the surface rust. I think if more people soaked these boxes in EvapoRust, they would see the black. The rust really grows around the paint and no black can be seen.

Re: steering box [Re: FJR doc] #1576230 02/11/14 06:58 AM 02/11/14 06:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX kentj340 top fuel
kentj340 top fuel Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX	Quote: Perhaps there is confusion regarding power steering and manual boxes. My 1970 Duster 340 with power steering had a black box. I believe that manual boxes were not painted. This topic is about power steering boxes, but my 69 Barracuda 340 with manual fast steering box is definitely bare aluminum. Maybe power steering boxes were iron castings with black paint, and manual boxes were bare aluminum castings? If you don't see two dolphins, you need a vacation.

Re: steering box [Re: kentj340] #1576231 02/11/14 10:34 AM 02/11/14 10:34 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Manual steering boxes were always made out of aluminum and not painted. The power steering boxes cast iron castings were given a quick gloss black paint to prevent from rusting. As others have said, it was not that great of a paint job as it was never primed or prepped correctly for the paint to last. Add leaking power steering fluid and other oils/greases, the paint separated from the cast iron metal easily.

Re: steering box [Re: ] #1576232 02/11/14 12:13 PM 02/11/14 12:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,046 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,046 Benton, IL.	And often, the power boxes were not even completely painted. I have had several that only had paint on the top, but was heavy enough to run down the sides kinda like stripes. So the bottoms had nothing but a few drips. Master, again and still

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