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70 cuda disc brake swap #156189
11/24/08 09:19 PM
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I recently swapped disc brakes onto my 70 cuda from a 70 challenger. I dont use a brake booster. I bought a manual disc brake master cylinder from advance auto but ive had trouble with it leaking so what would be a good master cylinder for this? Also Ive kept the stock drum brake proportioning valve. It works good but the pedal is extremely hard. Its hard to push but doesnt stop the car too great. Whats the best way to make the pedal not so hard to push and get better stopping results? The hard pedal doesnt bother me so much but not being able to stop good does :/

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: derekeh] #156190
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contact Dr Diff on the board here


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Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: derekeh] #156191
11/24/08 09:27 PM
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I recently swapped disc brakes onto my 70 cuda from a 70 challenger. I dont use a brake booster. I bought a manual disc brake master cylinder from advance auto but ive had trouble with it leaking so what would be a good master cylinder for this? Also Ive kept the stock drum brake proportioning valve. It works good but the pedal is extremely hard. Its hard to push but doesnt stop the car too great. Whats the best way to make the pedal not so hard to push and get better stopping results? The hard pedal doesnt bother me so much but not being able to stop good does :/


To make it work proper you will need a disc prop. valve. As far as a master I would use the stock app., just get a good one. A leaking reman master, let me guess it's a A/1

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: rrunner] #156192
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Where can I get a disc brake proportioning valve? And will this bolt in or will I have to redo the brake lines?

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: derekeh] #156193
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Check out this link to Mancini Racing

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/propbrakval.html

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: batt2rm] #156194
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Check out this link to Mancini Racing

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/propbrakval.html


That will help even out the braking but when I tryed one I still had a very hard pedal. I would find a disc app. valve and yes you will have to do some work with the brake lines.

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: rrunner] #156195
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Is their an aluminum or plastic master cylinder I can use on my car? And can someone give me a link to the proportioning valve I would need?

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: derekeh] #156196
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Do your homework & select the correct MC bore size for your app so you have good brakes the 1st time.


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Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: RapidRobert] #156197
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How do I figure the bore size I need?

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: RapidRobert] #156198
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I would suggest a 7/8 or 15/16". I used a 1&1/8(manual) & it was bad-poor leverage, it took too much leg/ not enough travel. I would add a disc proportioning valve(there are several stock variations) rather than adding an aftermarket adjustable prop valve in the rear line with your stock drum prop valve. I defer to Dr Diff for the final word on the best selections for you. But from the tone of your post it sounds like your linings/pads/friction surfaces ain't right that you dont have enough braking even when you stand on it.


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Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: derekeh] #156199
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How do I figure the bore size I need?



You need to figure out a little more than just this, but start by contacting Dr Diff. You can find him on this site.

With manual front disc brakes, you need a master cylinder that gives you a hydraulic advantage or your pedal will be real hard to push. You can accomplish this by using a master cylinder with a small bore that still has enough volume to poperly activate the brakes.

Dr Diff can tell you which one, or just ship you the right parts to finish your conversion correctly and safely.


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Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: jbc426] #156200
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Sent him a message so hopefully ill get lined out soon

Re: 70 cuda disc brake swap [Re: derekeh] #156201
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I tried the 1 1/8, 15/16th and the 1 inch bore on my 68 dart, I ended up using a 1 inch bore w/ a redisule valve on the rear. They work great for being manual disc/drum setup. A lot better then the old setup.







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