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welder feedback #156092
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I'm looking at buying a starter welder and narrowed the choices down to a Lincoln 140 or a Hobart 140. Anyone have experiences with either good or bad?


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Re: welder feedback [Re: moparpollack] #156093
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We use a hobart 140 at work.

I am really impressed with how good it works.

Will run on a 15amp circuit with no problem.

Re: welder feedback [Re: ToddP] #156094
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I have owned both, and use them a lot! The Hobart will eventually fry circuit board. I have had mine fixed twice. It is a good unit..but HAVE to stay under duty cycle. The Lincoln SP is a heavier duty welder..longer duty cycle and better quality.
Now I use the new Millers..best 110 welder available. You will get more hours of use and it's more user friendly. All 3 are good machines, but the Miller is the best.

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Well I pretty much can get the Lincoln for the price of the Hobart so I will go that route. I know the Miller is best but for my use I think the Lincoln will do fine. Thanks!


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Re: welder feedback [Re: moparpollack] #156096
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I really like my Lincoln

Re: welder feedback [Re: VITC_GTX] #156097
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why spend your money twice ? get 180 at least. with the 180 you can do rollbars, cages ect. the 140 is to light


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Hobart is made by Miller. I have a Hobart 140 at home and we also have one at work for small jobs.We use the crap out of it at work and it never skips a beat. The Lincoln unit uses aluminum in their power transformer instead of copper like Miller and Hobart which is not as durable. I personally would go with the Hobart, it is a better unit than the comperable Lincoln.

Re: welder feedback [Re: moparpollack] #156099
11/25/08 01:32 AM
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Quote:

I'm looking at buying a starter welder and narrowed the choices down to a Lincoln 140 or a Hobart 140. Anyone have experiences with either good or bad?



I have a Hobart 150 which I believe is what the 140 was B4 Miller bought Hobart. I like it. I used shieldind gas with it but it can also use flux core

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The 140 is still Miller. The whip has Miller stamped on it........

Re: welder feedback [Re: 340SHORTY] #156101
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why spend your money twice ? get 180 at least. with the 180 you can do rollbars, cages ect. the 140 is to light [/quote

ABSOLUTELY. I started with a Hobart Handler 115v mig and hated it every time I used it. I have since upgraded to a Millermatic 180 with a spool gun and my only regret is that I didn't do this sooner. PLUS the new Miller has autoset which works beautifully. I can weld alum. from 18ga. to 1/4" and mild steel from 24ga. to 5/16". You get a MIG & TIG and the cost for the 180 and spool gun was $975 and it will most likely be the last machine I will ever need to buy. If you can afford the $ don't waste your time with the inferior welders.

Re: welder feedback [Re: wings471] #156102
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The new 140 Lincoln can be used for aluminum with an add on kit - wire feed moves to the gun due to difficulty getting aluminum to feed properly through cables.

The 110 welders cannot generate enough heat (current) for anything over 3/16" thick. My Lincoln 135+ works great, but I ended up buying a second welder for welding on frames, suspension brackets, crossmembers, etc. If you are only going to use the welder for hobby welding the 140 amp will work good for you, but If you can afford the 180 amp/220volt version and have a 220 outlet buy it.

Re: welder feedback [Re: 340SHORTY] #156103
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why spend your money twice ? get 180 at least. with the 180 you can do rollbars, cages ect. the 140 is to light




Actually it's just for light sheet metal nothing really heavy. I have an ebay coupon and can get one to the door for about $400. I understand going bigger but the budget calls for something cheap.


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Re: welder feedback [Re: moparpollack] #156104
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I've got a 110v lincoln and it welds what I want. I bought it mainly for sheet metal/light car frame use. It does the job just fine. If I ever need to do heavier stuff, I will get a stick welder. But the small lincoln mig is good enough for 99% of my needs.

Re: welder feedback [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #156105
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I borrowed a friend's Lincoln something HD model. I think the HD stands for Home Depot model. It was maxed out. Would hate to use it all the time. It was flux core, so that may have added to my dislike of it. I bought the Lincoln 180C and love it. Stuck a clothes dryer type plug on the side of my breaker panel, and use a 20' 10 gauge extension cord for the 220V requirements. Whenever I use it, I'm not thinking "I wish I saved some money and got the cheap one."

Re: welder feedback [Re: 375inStroke] #156106
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Like many tools it depends on the use its going to be put through. I Have a Lincoln SP-100 (predessesor to the SP-125) that I've been using, lightly, for over ten years. Bought it used. Maybe use it 15-20 times a year, rarely on anything bigger than 1/8", but a few times yes. It performs flawlessly. Lincoln makes good stuff, as does Miller & Hobart. Stay away from Century and HArbor Freight stuff for this.

Re: welder feedback [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #156107
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I have an older Hobart 120? (small 110v mig), and it works really well on 3/16" and thinner steel.
I have welded 1/4" with it for some brackets, and no problem as long as the edges are beveled so you can get into the steel. I have an old stick welder for heavier stuff.
Anyhow, any of the good Brand name welders (Hobart or Lincon) work well for car hobby type projects, just spend the extra money for the gas setup. The flux cored wire leaves more spatter, and I think larger in diameter than the small solid wire. Anyhow when I tried using the flux core wire it was more prone to burn through thin sheetmetal, but it is OK on exhaust tubeing and brackets.

Re: welder feedback [Re: 451Mopar] #156108
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Is the 140 Hobart 110v or 220v? Just wanted to clarify (since we can't edit anymore ) My 150 is 220 and is perfectly capable of welding 1/4" in one pass.

Re: welder feedback [Re: moparpollack] #156109
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Its out of scope for what you asked about, however I must add to your thread that I love my Miller 210. Perhaps a used one on CraigsList would cost the same as a new 140? A 210 would be all you ever need in a MIG for auto type welding IMHO...

I do think you will get all you need for 95% of garage work with the smaller MIG you are looking at though, so not too big a deal on the upgrade to a 210 unless you can get a good used deal.

Re: welder feedback [Re: Scott Carl] #156110
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Is the 140 Hobart 110v or 220v? Just wanted to clarify (since we can't edit anymore ) My 150 is 220 and is perfectly capable of welding 1/4" in one pass.


Hobart 140 is a 110 volt welder.The 140 will also weld 1/4 inch if the edges of the steel are beveled.

Re: welder feedback [Re: boomer] #156111
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I second the suggestion to get a 210. I could not live without it. I had a 110v model and had a miserable experience. They don't regulate well, causing unnecessary burn-throughs/lack of penetration. Plus, the duty cycles are generally pretty low. The 210 has welded everything I've ever thrown at it, from an automotive perspective. I wouldn't get rid of it for love or money..

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