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help me pick a cam.... #1560577
01/07/14 11:48 PM
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I need help with picking a cam. Here are the specs:
1970 383 that is .030 overbore rebuilt with
factory pistons and rods 10 to 1 comp
factory 906 heads redone
distributor recurved
780 street avenger carb

car specs:
1970 roadrunner
automatic trans with a little more stall
3:55 gears
power brakes and air conditioning. So it needs to make some vacuum. Any suggestions?

I need it to be hydraulic.
I also have adjustable rockers
thanks

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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: Cuda340] #1560578
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I love my Hughes cam.

Call or email them and they will recommend a cam that will work perfect with your combo.

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: 493_DART] #1560579
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I probably will use hughes but has anyone else have good success with any others?

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: Cuda340] #1560580
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Do your self a favor and ask the cam manufacturer ...There's Hughes , Bullet, Isky ,Crane ...they will grind you a cam to the engine you are building ,,much better than a cam off the shelf ..about the same $$$ too..I use bullet ,,

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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: Cuda340] #1560581
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I probably will use hughes but has anyone else have good success with any others?


Hughes doesn't grind cams,call Tim @ Bullet.

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: Cuda340] #1560582
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You realize that there are no 383 10:1 factory or factory like replacement pistons available. If it is a flat top it is probably 9:1 at best.

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: BSB67] #1560583
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You realize that there are no 383 10:1 factory or factory like replacement pistons available. If it is a flat top it is probably 9:1 at best.


Thanks for telling the truth i was going to bring it up but i did not want to hurt feelings .
It might be 9to1 if at zero deck and cc matched heads 383 most likely 8.5 to 8.8 to one compression.
With a KB 400 pistion witch is a solid dome pistion and 84 cc edellbrock heads with the pistion .006 in the hole i got 10.2 to 1.

Call Hughes. tell the exactly the combo and what it is going into be honest with your self and you will have a snappy motor.


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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: cjs69mope] #1560584
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You realize that there are no 383 10:1 factory or factory like replacement pistons available. If it is a flat top it is probably 9:1 at best.


Thanks for telling the truth i was going to bring it up but i did not want to hurt feelings .
It might be 9to1 if at zero deck and cc matched heads 383 most likely 8.5 to 8.8 to one compression.
With a KB 400 pistion witch is a solid dome pistion and 84 cc edellbrock heads with the pistion .006 in the hole i got 10.2 to 1.

Call Hughes. tell the exactly the combo and what it is going into be honest with your self and you will have a snappy motor.




Actually its a buddy of mines motor and I was just relaying the info he told me. Wait until I tell him... hahaha (can't wait to see his face)

Thanks for all the good tips and I tell him to call Hughes or Tim @ bullet.

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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: cjs69mope] #1560585
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You realize that there are no 383 10:1 factory or factory like replacement pistons available. If it is a flat top it is probably 9:1 at best.




If they are the flat top pistons with no valve reliefs, you may be limited to pretty mild cams due to valve to piston clearance?

I would use a mild cam like the Lunati Voodoo 262/268 (60302LK.) This is 220/226 @ 0.050 duration and 0.475"/0.494" lift. It uses the 3-bolt timing gear.
The Comp XE262H is about the same, but uses a single bolt timing gear. It is also slightly milider. 262/270 advertised duration, 218/224 @ 0.050" duration, 0.462"/0.470" lift.

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: 451Mopar] #1560586
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Tim @ Bullet cams will grind a cam just for your motor !!!662-893-8022

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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: dynamite] #1560587
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Thanks Guys. He already called Tim @ bullet...

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: Cuda340] #1560588
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I started with a Scott Brown cam in my engine a few years ago..due to all the rave reviews on this site. It worked well...the following year I tried a Hughes cam that was similar in specs . I talked to Hughes on the phone and we agreed on one of their "shelf" cams, a flat tappet that should work nice with my combo.

The car picked up a TENTH .

Ill stick with Hughes cams thank you

Mopar company that designs Mopar cams = works for me

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: 493_DART] #1560589
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I always picked my own cams as I felt I had pretty good knowledge of camshafts after being a tech all my life. But when I built this pump gas 493 I wanted a nice solid flat tappet cam as I drive it on the street 99% of the time and wanted one made to work well with my combo as I also knew I was going to race it capped up. So I went to Dwayne Porter as every car I see with his cams in them run great ! And I am 100% pleased. And he is a very nice guy to work with that has good fair prices. The car more then met my goal of running 10's on pump thru the pipes and I thank him very much for grinding me a good cam. He is one of the smartest guys I have ever talked to and his work shows it. If you would decide to call him anytime just let me know as I have his phone#. You cant go wrong talking to a pro about your cam as the guys who grind the cams are pro's who do that work every day. Good luck which ever cam you use. Ron

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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: 451Mopar] #1560590
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You realize that there are no 383 10:1 factory or factory like replacement pistons available. If it is a flat top it is probably 9:1 at best.




If they are the flat top pistons with no valve reliefs, you may be limited to pretty mild cams due to valve to piston clearance?

I would use a mild cam like the Lunati Voodoo 262/268 (60302LK.) This is 220/226 @ 0.050 duration and 0.475"/0.494" lift. It uses the 3-bolt timing gear.
The Comp XE262H is about the same, but uses a single bolt timing gear. It is also slightly milider. 262/270 advertised duration, 218/224 @ 0.050" duration, 0.462"/0.470" lift.


I run that Voodoo in my 10.1 68 383, stock carb stock intake and exh manifolds that have been port matched and "worked" 915 heads. the cam is great a lot of low end and pulls extremely hard all the way up to 5,500, i really was surprised by this cam! it gives me 17" of vacuum at about 850 900rpm in neutral "4-speed". i also have power brakes.

Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: ademon] #1560591
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You realize that there are no 383 10:1 factory or factory like replacement pistons available. If it is a flat top it is probably 9:1 at best.




If they are the flat top pistons with no valve reliefs, you may be limited to pretty mild cams due to valve to piston clearance?

I would use a mild cam like the Lunati Voodoo 262/268 (60302LK.) This is 220/226 @ 0.050 duration and 0.475"/0.494" lift. It uses the 3-bolt timing gear.
The Comp XE262H is about the same, but uses a single bolt timing gear. It is also slightly milider. 262/270 advertised duration, 218/224 @ 0.050" duration, 0.462"/0.470" lift.


I run that Voodoo in my 10.1 68 383, stock carb stock intake and exh manifolds that have been port matched and "worked" 915 heads. the cam is great a lot of low end and pulls extremely hard all the way up to 5,500, i really was surprised by this cam! it gives me 17" of vacuum at about 850 900rpm in neutral "4-speed". i also have power brakes.




That sounds like a nice combo. Do you know what it runs? How many cars you got?

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Never had it at the track i would guess a few tenths faster than a stock 68 RR 4-speed 3.23. i did beat my buddys 67 chevelle 396 4-speed with headers and 4.11's buy half a car! just have my 68 RR and 71 demon 340

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Re: help me pick a cam.... [Re: ademon] #1560594
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Very nice. I bet beating the 396 felt pretty good.







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