Re: Towing with an A-100
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Not enclosed but an 18' open was just fine from WI to CA with my pig b-body on it. Rear sway bar and other tricks would help an enclosed. How far do you plan on going? Towing in Oregon is MUCH different than towing in Ohio's
No specific amount of distance. .....In the last year, I moved to South Carolina from Michigan and I want to get an older Dodge truck for a daily driver/tow vehicle to replace my current truck (2004 crew cab 2500 4x4). No need for a 4x4 anymore. So, I'm on the hunt for an A100 or a Sweptline.
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Re: Towing with an A-100
[Re: STEFF]
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01/04/14 07:38 PM
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Has anyone towed a 24ft enclosed trailer with an A-100? How did it handle it?
You are talking about one of these... right?
So the newest one would be a 1970 model and the biggest engine would have been the 318. I would certainly hope you'd have the entire suspension and brake system rebuilt. Plus I'd imagine it would need some modifications to the engine to haul a 24ft. enclosed car trailer around. I wonder what the towing ratings were on an A100. I'm guessing it would be a little out of it's league with a load like that.
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Re: Towing with an A-100
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I heard a bunch of people say in the past that the pucker factor was high towing heavy trailers with Ramchargers, which are longer and heavier than A-100's.
I can't imagine what it would be like towing a 24ft enclosed with a 90" wheelbase and 10" drums.
Exactly.
I know people towed with similar vehicles or less back then, but there is no need for it with the good selection of tow vehicles available today. I mean it would certainly be cool to see an A100 towing a race car around, but I don't think I'd want to ride along.
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Re: Towing with an A-100
[Re: Jeremiah]
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01/06/14 02:10 AM
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I would find a swepty and put it on a newer chassis if I was planning to use it for towing. The 60's trucks had bad suspensions, drum brakes, wimpy steering, etc. I say all of this from experience.
I tend to agree with this, expect the suspension part. The 3/4 ton swepty had heavy duty suspension, the drum brakes were large diameter. They were capable of doing the job you have in mind. I had a 66 3/4 ton "camper Special" Dodge pickup, it had a poly 318 and a granny low gear 4 speed. Between my father and I, we had huge loads on that truck. more then almost anything I put on any of the 73=93 3/4 ton trucks.
My dad did construction, then did jack hammer work when he owned the 66. The last 3 or 4 years he owned it, he had an air compressor that was big enough to run 2 90lbs jack hammers, at the same time, mounted in the box. He sold me the 66 truck when he bought an almost new 76 Dodge 1 ton, single wheel, camper special, pickup which he moved the air compressor to. According to him, the 76 truck didn't hold a candle to the 66. The 75 was later replaced with an 85 1 ton, which dad said wasn't near the truck the 76 was. He maintains the 66 was the best work truck he ever had.
If I was planning on pulling a trailer, I'd go for a 70s D (or W) 150 or 200 truck with the disc brakes. The old drums were OK for stopping a loaded truck, but adding a trailer increased the demand on the drums to the point of being borderline. An A-100(truck or van) is a very light duty operation I would be afraid to pull a little 2,000 lbs trailer with. A 70s heavy 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton B van was capable of being a good towing vehicle, but be sure its not the real light duty 1/2 ton version. Gene
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Re: Towing with an A-100
[Re: poorboy]
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01/06/14 02:33 AM
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I would find a swepty and put it on a newer chassis if I was planning to use it for towing. The 60's trucks had bad suspensions, drum brakes, wimpy steering, etc. I say all of this from experience.
I tend to agree with this, expect the suspension part. The 3/4 ton swepty had heavy duty suspension, the drum brakes were large diameter. They were capable of doing the job you have in mind. I had a 66 3/4 ton "camper Special" Dodge pickup, it had a poly 318 and a granny low gear 4 speed. Between my father and I, we had huge loads on that truck. more then almost anything I put on any of the 73=93 3/4 ton trucks.
My dad did construction, then did jack hammer work when he owned the 66. The last 3 or 4 years he owned it, he had an air compressor that was big enough to run 2 90lbs jack hammers, at the same time, mounted in the box. He sold me the 66 truck when he bought an almost new 76 Dodge 1 ton, single wheel, camper special, pickup which he moved the air compressor to. According to him, the 76 truck didn't hold a candle to the 66. The 75 was later replaced with an 85 1 ton, which dad said wasn't near the truck the 76 was. He maintains the 66 was the best work truck he ever had.
If I was planning on pulling a trailer, I'd go for a 70s D (or W) 150 or 200 truck with the disc brakes. The old drums were OK for stopping a loaded truck, but adding a trailer increased the demand on the drums to the point of being borderline. An A-100(truck or van) is a very light duty operation I would be afraid to pull a little 2,000 lbs trailer with. A 70s heavy 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton B van was capable of being a good towing vehicle, but be sure its not the real light duty 1/2 ton version. Gene
I agree that the the swepty trucks were capable and have out them through the paces loaded to the hilt. For towing disk brakes and independent from suspensions are so much better as you pointed out.
In my case by the time I upgrade to an open knuckle front diff, move the gas tank under the bed (for leg room and capacity increase), add power steering, etc. I would be better off moving my body work over to a new chassis. Also the frames on the Lifestyle trucks are stiffer (ignoring the issue around the steering box).
With all of that said I have hammered, beat, jumped, wheeled, overloaded and generally abused my '70 W100 for six years and it will not give up. I bought it as a parts truck too! It is one tough s oh b. In fact if my '70 would give up I'd be getting much more momentum to get my '65 W100 (the truck that started my sweptline adventures) done.
FYI steff they make pretty decent floor pans and rocker panels for the 61-71 trucks but things like door locks, fan motors, and seat covers are nonexistent to my knowledge. If I was going down the path you are looking into I'd find a clean /6 2wd 61-71 in the bed style of your choice and start measuring to see if a 12V cummins chassis would work without moving things around too much.
Also FYI lots of little stuff changed on the 61-71 trucks over the years so make sure to look into those idiosyncrasies as well.
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Re: Towing with an A-100
[Re: Rhinodart]
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01/07/14 02:00 PM
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It won't work. My worst tow was a 1971 D100 with my 1964 D100, a 950 mile tow. The trailer wanted to steer the truck. I finally got rear tire pressure up to 70psi, which helped some, but even on the flats, it was white knuckle most of the way. Long downgrades were the worst, even with hydraulic trailer brakes. Then another tow was a 1991 Taurus with the same D100, I got really good at double-clutching into Second gear (non-synchro) going up the Continental Divide out of Denver.
An A-100 is significantly less tuck than my D100. A D200 has a much stiffer rear suspension and should be okay for most anything, though.
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Re: Towing with an A-100
[Re: STEFF]
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01/07/14 11:55 PM
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Glad to hear it! I avoided this thread because any time someone asks about towing, someone comes up with a story about how they stuck a gooseneck in the open hatch of an Omni and did fine! An A-100 is just not built for towing much. Yes it could be modified, but it's still a short wheelbase unibody vehicle with a small grille (radiator) opening. If you ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE that bodystyle, go with an L-600 or 700 and redo the chassis...
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