Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/new-technology/keep-that-tailgate-up-mostlysample quote Indeed, there was one case, a 2001 Ford F-150 standard cab, where lowering the tailgate actually improved CD, albeit insignificantly, from 0.5230 to 0.5215. (And, yes, pickup trucks are bricks aerodynamically.) In their report (SAE Paper No. 2004-01-1146), the researchers discussed underlying reasons for the phenomena. In general, there's a wake immediately behind any pickup cab, and this suction is greater without a tailgate in place. True, presence of a tailgate adds a small drag increment; but the cab wake predominates. more info: http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/achievements/highlights/2007/tailgate_down_myth.htmlhttp://papers.sae.org/2004-01-1146/
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
[Re: savoy64]
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03/02/14 08:02 AM
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an empty bed with the tailgate up looks like an air dam to me---you might try a test with the tailgate down or taken off vs with what you have with it up...
That's about the best it gets...
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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Had a 94 F150 supercab 4x4 about 12yrs ago and drove 45-50 miles to work one way.
Added a tonneau cover, flowmaster catback and K&N drop-in and gained 2mpg highway.
Not really able to give the credit to any specific change you did. The tonneau cover may have helped but no sure way of knowing. Glad you saw improvements though.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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Have any of you seen a real world fuel mileage increase by adding a tonneau (sp?) cover/flat pickup box cover? I'm adding one to my 2011 Ram for other reasons, but I have heard that putting one of these on does help highway mileage. What have any of you seen? True or another urban legend? I remember when those nets on the back of trucks to replace the tailgate were all the rage, but then read a few years later that they didn't really help at all...?
JS
Ram had a bunch of figures for drag on the 2014 1500. They claim that with the shutter system and the cover, they have the lowest coeffectient in the industry. A quote from Allpar.com:
Dave Sowers pointed out that the active shutters was normally either fully open or fully closed. When closed, air pressure quickly builds up in front of the slats, deflecting oncoming air over the truck, which has the lowest drag coefficient of any pickup on the market. At all times, there’s airflow over the radiator from other openings. The idea was to avoid drag from radiator capacity which is seldom needed, while still being able to cool the engine under any reasonable conditions. (He also said that riding with the tailgate down increases drag, while a tonneau cover makes the truck much more aerodynamic.)
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I am getting an average of 19Mpg right now on mine. I am liking it alot.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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03/05/14 05:42 PM
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UPDATE: I added a soft/folding tonneau cover last fall, mostly just to keep the bed clean and the ability to put stuff in back and keep it out of sight/locked tailgate. I haven't watched my fuel mileage that close lately as it's been SO COLD out here that I'm spending a lot of time letting my Ram idle outside to warm up, so my mileage hasn't been great day-to-day. That said, on Monday and Tuesday I had to drive (for work) over 140 miles each day, all interstate, and decided to check my mileage. So, I filled up at home, drove this trek two days in a row, and filled up at home again. I clocked a 21.9mpg trip with my 2011 Ram 1500 Quad Cab 5.7L Hemi 4x4. I was impressed! I never got that kind of mileage before adding the cover. Now, I don't want to say that the cover did this...but, I was NOT driving these two days in any way to increase gas mileage. 65mph zone, I was treking in at 75-80 most of the time trying to get there quicker... I'm very happy with the bed cover, and it's certainly not HURTING my fuel mileage! Thanks for all the replies! I really think that it helps, I don't really know how much, but every little bit counts at these gas prices and the amount of miles that I drive. JS
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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03/18/14 06:37 AM
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Years ago a truck magazine did this comparison on a Chevy, Ford and Dodge. Only the Dodge saw improvement with a bed cover. I want to say it was in the '02-'08 body style if that helps.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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A Ford Engineer on how bed covers affect F150 aero: https://web.archive.org/web/200306031606...s_save_fuel.htmsample quote "Tonneau covers on pickup boxes reduce aerodynamic drag" said Ford's Jack Williams. "we've seen reductions of about 8 to 10 percent on the F150, which means the average fuel economy improvements for the EPA city/highway cycle(test) is about 2 percent. "The average steady-state (cruise control) fuel economy improvement at highway speeds is close to 5 percent.." end quote
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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On an early walk this morning i saw one of these "Slimline" bed covers on a Chevy pickup and wondered whether the "stepdown" at the halfway point had any aerodynamic effect, considering the US Patent from GM posted above. http://www.slimlinetruckcovers.net/The Slimline designer does have aero in mind because there is a mild rear lip spoiler that is difficult to make out in the photo.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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On a smaller scale the Rampage topper made the truck more stable at speed without it the truck would move around when big rigs, would blast pass it on the interstate at the track it also help the aerodynamics
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