Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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Have any of you seen a real world fuel mileage increase by adding a tonneau (sp?) cover/flat pickup box cover? I'm adding one to my 2011 Ram for other reasons, but I have heard that putting one of these on does help highway mileage. What have any of you seen? True or another urban legend? I remember when those nets on the back of trucks to replace the tailgate were all the rage, but then read a few years later that they didn't really help at all...?
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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I never saw any increases or decreases on our three trucks.....But we do mostly around town driving. On the highway you may see a very minor difference IMO.
I put them on to keep the weather and prying eyes out. It really bothers me around here to see pickup beds full of snow. And it's nice to know you can stick something in the back and have it stay dry to mostly dry--depending on the cover and actual weather.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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That's why I'm adding it to mine, to be able to keep stuff in the bed and keep it dry. Just curious on the mileage, and I'm driving this truck around 100 miles a day or about 500/week, so maybe it'll save a little gas to boot? JS
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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That said, if I saw an average of 1mpg improvement, that would be very cool! JS
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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I`ve always had bed covers on my trucks for the same reason to keep the elements out, I don`t know if there is really a gas mileage difference, heres a not so funny story about the elements and pickup beds: A few years ago at my local track there was a quick passing shower resulting in down time and a track drying process which took an hour or so,the first vehicle to make a pass after the drying was a pick up with a bed liner and no bed cover, you guessed it when he left the line all the water in the bed from the rain came out the back all over the starting line, the track personal were not amused.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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On my 72 d100, I have a leather snap on tonneau cover. It might be my suspension, but my truck drives better with it off. With it on, I could feel my back end wriggle around while driving. With it off, the truck tracks straight. No real mileage increase. Or decrease though. With the 318, and a230 3 on the tree, it would get real close to 20. Went with the a833od and the tonneau cover it got the same haha. But I also "upgraded" to a 4bbl. I imagine with a hard cover, it would be different. I stopped driving with my leather one. With the tailgate up, its been shown that the tailgate catches a very tiny bit of air, which rolls over/back towards the cab, which allows the rest of the air to roll over the truck. Ever drive with leaves in the bed, and the rear slider and sunroof open?
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on a 1995 Ram ClubCab with a 6.5 foot long cargo box i got a 1 mpg increase on the highway with a hard ARE tonneau there was no increase in city driving US Patents are sworn to "under oath" GM swore under oath that the best aerodynamics comes when you cover about half the open bed from the tailgate forward. See this patent http://www.google.com/patents/US4573730?...ved=0CDUQ6AEwAAthis drawing and graph shows the effect http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US4573730-1.pngthere is also a good study of tonneaus on full sized GM and Ford pickups in the large wind tunnel owned by the Research Council of Canada, but unfortunately they did not include a Ram pickup
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Back when I had my 2002 Ram 1500, I put a vinyl bed cover on it. It was one of those that had a frame with cross bars it secured to. I didn't have to undo anything to drop the tailgate which was nice. The one thing that surprised me about the cover was how much it moved. Even after sitting in the sun, it almost took two people to install it was so tight. Yet, out on the highway, in a strong crosswind, that sucker flapped around as if it wasn't fastened. Either way, mileage didn't change.
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My Extang cover is like that as is all the covers I`ve had in the summer they are fine but in the winter they are hard to put back on after removal for cargo, My Extang has moving snap bases and even with those its hard. I try not to remove it when its cold but the looks and purpose out weigh the disadvantages.
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Re: Gas Mileage increase when adding bed cover?
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MythBusters did a segment on them.They used covers,open,the tailgate straps with holes etc.IIRC the best mileage came from just running it stock.Google it and it should come up.Rocky
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/new-technology/keep-that-tailgate-up-mostlysample quote Indeed, there was one case, a 2001 Ford F-150 standard cab, where lowering the tailgate actually improved CD, albeit insignificantly, from 0.5230 to 0.5215. (And, yes, pickup trucks are bricks aerodynamically.) In their report (SAE Paper No. 2004-01-1146), the researchers discussed underlying reasons for the phenomena. In general, there's a wake immediately behind any pickup cab, and this suction is greater without a tailgate in place. True, presence of a tailgate adds a small drag increment; but the cab wake predominates. more info: http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/achievements/highlights/2007/tailgate_down_myth.htmlhttp://papers.sae.org/2004-01-1146/
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an empty bed with the tailgate up looks like an air dam to me---you might try a test with the tailgate down or taken off vs with what you have with it up...
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Had a 94 F150 supercab 4x4 about 12yrs ago and drove 45-50 miles to work one way.
Added a tonneau cover, flowmaster catback and K&N drop-in and gained 2mpg highway.
Not really able to give the credit to any specific change you did. The tonneau cover may have helped but no sure way of knowing. Glad you saw improvements though.
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Have any of you seen a real world fuel mileage increase by adding a tonneau (sp?) cover/flat pickup box cover? I'm adding one to my 2011 Ram for other reasons, but I have heard that putting one of these on does help highway mileage. What have any of you seen? True or another urban legend? I remember when those nets on the back of trucks to replace the tailgate were all the rage, but then read a few years later that they didn't really help at all...?
JS
Ram had a bunch of figures for drag on the 2014 1500. They claim that with the shutter system and the cover, they have the lowest coeffectient in the industry. A quote from Allpar.com:
Dave Sowers pointed out that the active shutters was normally either fully open or fully closed. When closed, air pressure quickly builds up in front of the slats, deflecting oncoming air over the truck, which has the lowest drag coefficient of any pickup on the market. At all times, there’s airflow over the radiator from other openings. The idea was to avoid drag from radiator capacity which is seldom needed, while still being able to cool the engine under any reasonable conditions. (He also said that riding with the tailgate down increases drag, while a tonneau cover makes the truck much more aerodynamic.)
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UPDATE: I added a soft/folding tonneau cover last fall, mostly just to keep the bed clean and the ability to put stuff in back and keep it out of sight/locked tailgate. I haven't watched my fuel mileage that close lately as it's been SO COLD out here that I'm spending a lot of time letting my Ram idle outside to warm up, so my mileage hasn't been great day-to-day. That said, on Monday and Tuesday I had to drive (for work) over 140 miles each day, all interstate, and decided to check my mileage. So, I filled up at home, drove this trek two days in a row, and filled up at home again. I clocked a 21.9mpg trip with my 2011 Ram 1500 Quad Cab 5.7L Hemi 4x4. I was impressed! I never got that kind of mileage before adding the cover. Now, I don't want to say that the cover did this...but, I was NOT driving these two days in any way to increase gas mileage. 65mph zone, I was treking in at 75-80 most of the time trying to get there quicker... I'm very happy with the bed cover, and it's certainly not HURTING my fuel mileage! Thanks for all the replies! I really think that it helps, I don't really know how much, but every little bit counts at these gas prices and the amount of miles that I drive. JS
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Years ago a truck magazine did this comparison on a Chevy, Ford and Dodge. Only the Dodge saw improvement with a bed cover. I want to say it was in the '02-'08 body style if that helps.
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A Ford Engineer on how bed covers affect F150 aero: https://web.archive.org/web/200306031606...s_save_fuel.htmsample quote "Tonneau covers on pickup boxes reduce aerodynamic drag" said Ford's Jack Williams. "we've seen reductions of about 8 to 10 percent on the F150, which means the average fuel economy improvements for the EPA city/highway cycle(test) is about 2 percent. "The average steady-state (cruise control) fuel economy improvement at highway speeds is close to 5 percent.." end quote
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On an early walk this morning i saw one of these "Slimline" bed covers on a Chevy pickup and wondered whether the "stepdown" at the halfway point had any aerodynamic effect, considering the US Patent from GM posted above. http://www.slimlinetruckcovers.net/The Slimline designer does have aero in mind because there is a mild rear lip spoiler that is difficult to make out in the photo.
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On a smaller scale the Rampage topper made the truck more stable at speed without it the truck would move around when big rigs, would blast pass it on the interstate at the track it also help the aerodynamics
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