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Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: AAR-B4] #1539776
11/26/13 01:31 PM
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372 readers, 16 posts and still no specific description of a first hand experience of Performance Products failure.

Here's some first hand experience: I have made spacers for friends small block ATI balancers because they rub the timing cover?


I knew a guy who had one of the prostreet dampers..... outer ring moved on him........ how do you set the timing like that?

Like most offshore stuff..... the quality is hit and miss....

I have been running a fluid damper for over twenty years..... so when it comes to damper discussions... I have grown a thick skin.....

Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: AAR-B4] #1539777
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372 readers, 16 posts and still no specific description of a first hand experience of Performance Products failure.

Here's some first hand experience: I have made spacers for friends small block ATI balancers because they rub the timing cover?




there you go it was a professional products,the outer ring blew appart:

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i have seen that brand come apart on a 383chevy. came apart and one of the pieces broke the outletfitting clean of the fuelpump also left a pretty substantial dent in the framerail. i wouldnt install that brand on a 318 destined to only run at idle.




and no there is no way in hell that was because of an installer doing something backwards. and it let go at less than 6000rpm,infact it never saw over 6000rpm,owner of the engine is very happy that his car did not burn to the ground thanks to that piece of absolute garbage.

Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: 1Fast340] #1539778
11/26/13 05:11 PM
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3 fellow racers here....every dampers had the outer ring loose and unbalanced...stay away from those

Dan

Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: Wedgeman] #1539779
11/26/13 06:26 PM
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I just put a Pro Sport one on mine because they had decent reviews on here. Pulleys aligned well and it went on no problem. That said, I had heard they were made in Austrailia, but they are not. They are made in China. Looks like a decent piece though.

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Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: mshred] #1539780
11/26/13 06:36 PM
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I've ran the pro street balancer on 2 engines, up to 7000rpm and lots of street miles...No issues to speak of




Sorry, I am running the pro sport balancer...It is SFI approved and has been working well the past 2 years. I have had it on and off more than a handful of times and inspect it everytime before I put it back on, and so far so good (hope I don't jinx myself lol)

Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: GTX MATT] #1539781
11/26/13 06:49 PM
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The Pro Street balancer I bought from Mancini is made in Austrailia and it says SFI 18000. It has not slipped as I just checked it about a month or so ago. Its been on my 63 for over 2 years with no problems at all. One reason I bought it is because I was told balancer's made in Austrailia were good quality and as I said I have had no problem at all with it. Now I only race maybe 2 times a year normally. I wanted a balancer that fit right with the stock pulleys which is one reason I did not use the ATI as you have to shim things to line the pulleys up and it has big block Chevy bolt pattern. They say ATI is the best but that dont mean all other's are junk. Some yes like anything but not all other brands are junk. Ron

Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: BradH] #1539782
11/26/13 08:07 PM
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372 readers, 16 posts and still no specific description of a first hand experience of Performance Products failure.



"RAMM" (Jess Robinson) was running either a Professional Products or 440Source brand (possibly the same part, but he'd need to confirm that) damper on one of his BB EMC entries a few years ago when it failed during the competition. Ask him what happened.

Also, how about a performance machine shop that couldn't get a rotating assembly to balance properly w/ the PP damper installed, so they swapped it out for another brand and resolved the issue? They won't deal with PP dampers anymore.



I have personally seen 3 PP dampers fail, one actually blew right apart on the dyno ( BBC). That being said, these were all older units. They did have a propblem with the elastomer seal failing at that point. I have only used customer supplied ones since then, as I wont use them. The only time I will even allow that is if its a street engine.

I have also experienced, and have posted before, several failures with the Summit brand balancers. Customer bought one, and the outer ring slipped, he timed it accordingly, then shortly after tore the main webs out of his block. I was not impressed.

What happens when these posts come up, is no one wants to " admit" often times, they had a problem, as they know the " told ya so" crowd will be right along ( rightfully so). You'd be surprised at the failures of parts I know about from different shops and members on here, that never make the headline news....


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Re: Professional Products Dampers. Any good? [Re: Michael Ecks] #1539783
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How about PRW balancers, Any good?

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