Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 10:53 AM
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Looks like a real nice car there. Don't think the M/N parts will be a problem. Doesn't look like a car that's going to see a lot of miles. BE and A w/ V-8 share that same manual boxes that has bearings. /6 A-body had a box with bushings. 70 parts book shows #2808420 assy. for B,E and A w/V-8. 2808419 for /6 A-body. I can't find anything about shimming the box in the FSM and using all my fingers and toes can't begin to count how many boxes I've pulled and have never seen any shims. I think the problem is with the pitman arm.
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 11:36 AM
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I've used the same 16:1 manual box on A and E circle track cars so the interchange is the same. What I was referring to in an earlier post is I think an earlier K member either locates the eng different fore/aft and or tilts the steering box different. I doubt if that is the case in your deal but since yours was a basket case I wanted to throw that possibility out there but k.i.s.s. as said I think it's a pitman/idler issue. I've never seen shims there either & if you added em it'd mess up the column/coupler alignment I'd think.
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 11:40 AM
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Robert the difference in the box angle on the K-frame was the 70B only frame that is a cross between the 68-9B frame and the 70-4E/71-2B that have different angles. I guess if he has a 68-9B or 70B frame and an E arm could be a problem.
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 11:45 AM
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Thank you Mark as we have a circle track E body with a bent K (hit the wall) & I'll now know what is what when I get around to getting on it
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 04:19 PM
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Coin on my 70 challenger is "72". 5/70 LA built deputy 318/3spd, 3rd owner, car had virtually all it's correct fasteners, etc, found on an unmolested car. Why would anyone mess with a 318/2bbl car anyway? Shims in pic (posted on another thread) were in it when I took it apart. jess
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Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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Good info Jess. Those are the numbers in my 70/1 FPM. I have a few boxes down at the yard. I'll check the numbers. I've always though it was common Mopar knowledge that A,B and E have the same bearing boxes and /6 A-body had the bushing box which is what my books show? I've interchanged them several times over the years. Flaming River, Firm Feel, etc. show the same for A,B and E.
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 10:12 PM
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The shaft length is the same
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Re: E-body front suspension question
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11/16/13 10:32 PM
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I'm about a 1/2 inch off so shims are not going to help
Brian, just out of curiosity, why not loosen the bottom bolt on the box, and back the two top bolts off, tilting the box down, until the inner tie rods are the same distance from the torsion bars, and see how much gap you have between the steering box and the frame. Won't cost anything to do, and maybe a small gap there will move the outer end of the pitman arm down more than you think it would, due to it's arc of travel....?? Just grasping at straws here. jess
Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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