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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: jeff968] #1530990
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Jeff thanks for the center link. I matched it up with mine and its the same. Yours has a part #2835877. So John I will be calling you, I need an E-body manual steering box. I will update as i figure this out. Thanks for all the help Moparts!

Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: 340swing] #1530991
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Looks like a real nice car there. Don't think the M/N parts will be a problem. Doesn't look like a car that's going to see a lot of miles.
BE and A w/ V-8 share that same manual boxes that has bearings. /6 A-body had a box with bushings.
70 parts book shows #2808420 assy. for B,E and A w/V-8. 2808419 for /6 A-body.
I can't find anything about shimming the box in the FSM and using all my fingers and toes can't begin to count how many boxes I've pulled and have never seen any shims. I think the problem is with the pitman arm.


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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: moparmarks] #1530992
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I've used the same 16:1 manual box on A and E circle track cars so the interchange is the same. What I was referring to in an earlier post is I think an earlier K member either locates the eng different fore/aft and or tilts the steering box different. I doubt if that is the case in your deal but since yours was a basket case I wanted to throw that possibility out there but k.i.s.s. as said I think it's a pitman/idler issue. I've never seen shims there either & if you added em it'd mess up the column/coupler alignment I'd think.


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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: RapidRobert] #1530993
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Robert the difference in the box angle on the K-frame was the 70B only frame that is a cross between the 68-9B frame and the 70-4E/71-2B that have different angles. I guess if he has a 68-9B or 70B frame and an E arm could be a problem.

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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: moparmarks] #1530994
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Looking at his pics again I see that he has the correct sway bar.
OP you might check and make sure you don't have a 70B K-frame. That would have the different box angle.


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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: moparmarks] #1530995
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Thank you Mark as we have a circle track E body with a bent K (hit the wall) & I'll now know what is what when I get around to getting on it


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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: RapidRobert] #1530996
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Is there any way to tell if the K member is correct? the coin on the front is stamped with the number 72. It's the only number i can find. Everything else bolts up nice. If the steering box or pitman arm were a 1/2 inch lower it would work. But I would like to know it's correct I don't wan't to rig this.I will try some othe box's this weekend and see what happens.

Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: 340swing] #1530997
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GG's book doesn't show a 72. Could it be a 12 which is early E body?
70B is a 90 wo/ skid and 79 w/ skid.


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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: moparmarks] #1530998
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I'm confused there are different part numbers or casting numbers (see dacloana's post) but moparmarks post says all BE and A V8 share the same box. I searched for 2537346 and 2537350-6 comes up ebody my number came up for an A-body. Biginchmotor has several other boxes with different numbers that I will try to match up. But I'm not sure what should be on the car.

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I will look at the coin when I get home I guess it could be a 12 I thought it was 72 but I will look again.

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Coin on my 70 challenger is "72". 5/70 LA built deputy 318/3spd, 3rd owner, car had virtually all it's correct fasteners, etc, found on an unmolested car. Why would anyone mess with a 318/2bbl car anyway? Shims in pic (posted on another thread) were in it when I took it apart.
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Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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Nice picture, Funny thing this car is also a 3spd but a 340 convertible.I wonder if that means anything. I'm about a 1/2 inch off so shims are not going to help.

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The coin is a 72, and it was pointed out to me that the number is also on the broadcast sheet line 4 under frame and sure enough it is. You learn something new every day. So i'm back to the steering box. Does anybody have a known E-body manual steering box with casting number 2537350-6. If it's in the car you cant see the number it's between the housing and the K-frame. I need the measurement from the end of the case to the end of the shaft mine is 2 5/16th.

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Good info Jess.
Those are the numbers in my 70/1 FPM.
I have a few boxes down at the yard. I'll check the numbers.
I've always though it was common Mopar knowledge that A,B and E have the same bearing boxes and /6 A-body had the bushing box which is what my books show? I've interchanged them several times over the years.
Flaming River, Firm Feel, etc. show the same for A,B and E.


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I think the box is the same but they may use a different length shaft. for A B and E. I'm guessing here but either way the one I have has the wrong casting number. Let me know if you have one. Thanks

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The shaft length is the same


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Re: E-body front suspension question [Re: RapidRobert] #1531006
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Quote:

I'm about a 1/2 inch off so shims are not going to help




Brian, just out of curiosity, why not loosen the bottom bolt on the box, and back the two top bolts off, tilting the box down, until the inner tie rods are the same distance from the torsion bars, and see how much gap you have between the steering box and the frame. Won't cost anything to do, and maybe a small gap there will move the outer end of the pitman arm down more than you think it would, due to it's arc of travel....?? Just grasping at straws here.
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Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...
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I will give it a try. But i'm stuck on the casting number, it is not the one others have posted for a Ebody. Making me think the box is wrong for the car. I will put it back on and take some pictures for the thread.

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jt4406 it took 1/4 inch bolts as mock up shims to make it clear the torsion bar. That isn't as bad as I thought but does this seem like an option to anybody? I could get some shims or make them but i have never seen a box shimmed. I know some have posted that they have seen this but the pics are hard to tell how big of a shim. I personaly don't like it but everything I have for the car so far checks out. Could this be the right box and it was shimmed?

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