Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: Supercuda]
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11/06/13 08:32 PM
11/06/13 08:32 PM
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Twostick
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Take him to court in NC?
Real convenient for the person scammed. It'll end up costing him more than the amount owed, in aggravation if nothing else.
Real useful suggestion there.
That's how these scammers operate and without the internet there was damned little one could do to get resolution. Statute of limitations is probably over negating any number of other options, such as mail fraud.
So he's left with public shame as his only choice and we all see how that is working out. Maybe USCT will go under and no one gets paid, other than just desserts for JP.
There is no statute of limitation in commerce.
Kevin
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: SNK-EYZ]
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11/06/13 09:35 PM
11/06/13 09:35 PM
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crocha617
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This thread could've died a week ago for only $275
Why is that?
If it was you that was out the money would you feel the same way?
A man is only as good as his word.
If the part isn't going to be made the the money should be refunded, returned or what ever way you want to say it.
You misunderstood me. I was trying to say USCT could've made this go away a week ago for $275. Now he may lose 100 or more times that amount in future business.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: HMcCandless_Jr]
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11/07/13 01:35 AM
11/07/13 01:35 AM
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I spoke to John today and told him to take care of this, he told me he hasn't looked at the thread, but then when I said there were links to yahoo groups he yes "I know" I immediately responded with how do you know if you haven't seen it. He is very aware and chooses not to deal with it. He did tell me I could broker a deal to get Mitchel his money back under the condition that this post go away, are you serious, just remember you cant get in trouble for telling the truth even if its bad about someone.
Herb, He could care less for the other 49 who were violated could he?
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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11/07/13 01:47 AM
11/07/13 01:47 AM
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jcc
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Wow, it surprises me how many people are giving the OP flak over this. Certainly the first to scream if it happened to them.
It's sad that people are so numb to the idea of making this right. OP might as well post this on any car forum he can find.
Yea the "divided we fall mentality", I don't understand the lynch without due process concept. And I don't understand why asking for hearing the other side is giving the OP flak. NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY has stated that the OP does not deserve his money returned, GOT IT?
^^^Yet another example of it, thanks. Quit trying for the lock.
The other side has been asked for REPEATEDLY and nothing came back. That is nonsense.
I asked a question about what I don't understand and your response is "trying for a lock". Nice attempt at avoiding the issue, you in cahoots with US tool?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: formula_s]
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11/07/13 01:54 AM
11/07/13 01:54 AM
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B5 Bee
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John Paseman..... This is not his first scam against the Mopar community, who remembers the 69 GTX he had on HEMINET years ago? It was a gold car with a bench seat...... Anyone recall??
Care to fill others in that don't remember?
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: HMcCandless_Jr]
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11/07/13 02:05 AM
11/07/13 02:05 AM
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...a deal to get Mitchel his money back under the condition that this post go away,
he had that option on october 28th.
all the more reason to archive this thread.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: mitchell]
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11/07/13 02:31 AM
11/07/13 02:31 AM
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moparmojo
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Wow this post is like a train wreck. I'm not taking sides or trying to invalidate anyones opinion but it surprises me how many are willing to throw this site sponsor/vendor under the bus merely because he fails to respond to the accusations on this post. What happened to until innocent until proven guilty? Sure do I think it is weird that usct has failed to reply, yes. But I also know that we don't have all the facts to make a sound judgement on the issue especially when many have had good experiences with them in the past. Usct has a history here to some degree. I also find it weird that we just now hear about this issue 8 years later from a new member and who during this post has encouraged us to go on other websites and youtube to bad mouth usct. The timing just seems unusual. I'm also confused about the email that was posted that appeared to be from John offering money back. Did the op take him up on the issue and he failed to follow thru or did the op demand an alternative resolution? Again unanswed. 8 years why the wait, why come on here now and talk about. Not like he saw a similar post and just had to share his story, but he created the post. I mean if it was me, after 8 years, I would have considered the money gone but even so I wouldn't sign up on mopar sites and just now start telling people to go on YouTube and kill someone's rating...for what, revenge? Again these events just seem out of the ordinary. Now I'm not saying I don't believe the op, however I just want to reserve judgement. There can be many reasons a company/person may not want to go on a site and respond to accusations. Is this the op's first posting like this? Has usct posted on other forums? If so was the response or process of discussing this issue in public a benefit? Who knows. Certainly it would be nice to hear the other side but I don't want to hang a guy wo the facts. Case in point my brother had a small business selling after market car parts. Things went well until one guy contacted him about a broker part. This was a beefy part and hard to break so my brother questions how it occurred. Buyer merely said during normal install or thereafter part broke . My brother did not sell parts with a warranty, however asked the guy to send the part back and he would send a replacement, however the buyer only wanted his money back. The was not an option, but the offer was out there. My brother heard back from the guy. But several months later he was made aware of a post on a website he sponsored where the buyer went on there and bad mouthed his part and parts. Which if that wasn't bad enough he completely fabricated the events of the situation which is my way of saying, he lied. Well this got the ball rolling and all these people were on the site slinging mud about my brother/company, so by the time he got on the to clear the air, the damage could not be fixed. He said so many people had came up with their own conclusions without the facts that when he did get on there they could only pepper him with bs questions as to not look bad themselves. Meaning they were already invested in what they perceived to be the outcome, therefore they tried to make it come true. There was no real winner and even though my brother had offed to replace the part free of charge people lost confidence in his business, that up until then had an unblemished reputation. Orders slowed, his suppliers wanted larger purchases so he just chose to fold up shop. Hard to stop a rolling snowball.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: moparmojo]
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11/07/13 03:00 AM
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Wow this post is like a train wreck. I'm not taking sides or trying to invalidate anyones opinion but it surprises me how many are willing to throw this site sponsor/vendor under the bus merely because he fails to respond to the accusations on this post. What happened to until innocent until proven guilty? Sure do I think it is weird that usct has failed to reply, yes. But I also know that we don't have all the facts to make a sound judgement on the issue especially when many have had good experiences with them in the past. Usct has a history here to some degree. I also find it weird that we just now hear about this issue 8 years later from a new member and who during this post has encouraged us to go on other websites and youtube to bad mouth usct. The timing just seems unusual. I'm also confused about the email that was posted that appeared to be from John offering money back. Did the op take him up on the issue and he failed to follow thru or did the op demand an alternative resolution? Again unanswed. 8 years why the wait, why come on here now and talk about. Not like he saw a similar post and just had to share his story, but he created the post. I mean if it was me, after 8 years, I would have considered the money gone but even so I wouldn't sign up on mopar sites and just now start telling people to go on YouTube and kill someone's rating...for what, revenge? Again these events just seem out of the ordinary. Now I'm not saying I don't believe the op, however I just want to reserve judgement. There can be many reasons a company/person may not want to go on a site and respond to accusations. Is this the op's first posting like this? Has usct posted on other forums? If so was the response or process of discussing this issue in public a benefit? Who knows. Certainly it would be nice to hear the other side but I don't want to hang a guy wo the facts. Case in point my brother had a small business selling after market car parts. Things went well until one guy contacted him about a broker part. This was a beefy part and hard to break so my brother questions how it occurred. Buyer merely said during normal install or thereafter part broke . My brother did not sell parts with a warranty, however asked the guy to send the part back and he would send a replacement, however the buyer only wanted his money back. The was not an option, but the offer was out there. My brother heard back from the guy. But several months later he was made aware of a post on a website he sponsored where the buyer went on there and bad mouthed his part and parts. Which if that wasn't bad enough he completely fabricated the events of the situation which is my way of saying, he lied. Well this got the ball rolling and all these people were on the site slinging mud about my brother/company, so by the time he got on the to clear the air, the damage could not be fixed. He said so many people had came up with their own conclusions without the facts that when he did get on there they could only pepper him with bs questions as to not look bad themselves. Meaning they were already invested in what they perceived to be the outcome, therefore they tried to make it come true. There was no real winner and even though my brother had offed to replace the part free of charge people lost confidence in his business, that up until then had an unblemished reputation. Orders slowed, his suppliers wanted larger purchases so he just chose to fold up shop. Hard to stop a rolling snowball.
No offense intended, but you need to go back to page 1, and re-read the entire thread.
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Re: U.S. Car Tool " Scam"
[Re: HairOtheDog]
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11/07/13 03:08 AM
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