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Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car #1519115
10/17/13 07:36 PM
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I'm in the process of restoring a 69 super bee and thinking of putting in a hydraulic roller cam. It's not going to be a race car but only street driven. It is a 4 speed with a 323 rear gear and I'd like to make it last for a long time. Any and all opinions are welcomed. Thanks


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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: 7812845] #1519116
10/18/13 01:43 AM
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Just what I want to do ! I`ll be watching this thread !! Mines also a 4spd , but with 3.91`s
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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: 7812845] #1519117
10/18/13 10:29 AM
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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IMO... overkill and $$$ for the combination you outlined.

BTW, my '69 383 Super Bee was much more fun to drive with 3.91s than 3.23s. I had 8.75" Sure-Grip 3rd members w/ both gears and would swap out to the 3.23s if I knew I had to take a long trip. Otherwise, the 3.91s were simply a lot "punchier" w/ the low torque of a 383.

Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: BradH] #1519118
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IMO... overkill and $$$ for the combination you outlined.

BTW, my '69 383 Super Bee was much more fun to drive with 3.91s than 3.23s. I had 8.75" Sure-Grip 3rd members w/ both gears and would swap out to the 3.23s if I knew I had to take a long trip. Otherwise, the 3.91s were simply a lot "punchier" w/ the low torque of a 383.


A nice hydraulic flat tappet would do just fine in your application.


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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: 7812845] #1519119
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Maybe he doesn't want to worry about wiping a lobe. The money spent is worth the peace of mind to some.


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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1519120
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Maybe he doesn't want to worry about wiping a lobe. The money spent is worth the peace of mind to some.


Maybe he should ask himself how long the previous flat tappet cam lasted in his application.


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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1519121
10/18/13 11:12 AM
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Why not you can't take it with you. A little bowl work on the heads a Dwayne Porter hydraulic roller and a avs off a 440 and bet you can school a few 440's. Ram said on his engine masters thread the Johnson hi lift was a good reasonably priced lifter.
I agree with Brad on the 3.91 gear. My first Mopar was a RR with 4 speed and 3.91. Stock except dp4b edelbrock intake. It was quicker than most cars in my town.


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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1519122
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Maybe he doesn't want to worry about wiping a lobe. The money spent is worth the peace of mind to some.



If he's thinking of going more aggressive than OEM, then I agree that does make cam break-in more critical.

But if he's just doing a legit stock-type restoration, that type of cam has pretty gentle lobes and is a lot less of an issue to break in successfully using good lifters w/ the right springs & flat-tappet compatible oil.

The OP needs to realistic about what he wants and what he can budget for. You know as well as anyone that going roller is a lot more $$$.

Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: BradH] #1519123
10/18/13 11:51 AM
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He is asking for all opinions but if he wants to spend the money for a hyd roller then thats his choice. I can tell him I use a solid flat tappet that I got from Dwayne Porter and had no problems breaking it in. If I were you I would call Dwayne Porter and go with what he says as he is about the best out there on camshafts and cyl heads. If you decide to call him let us know and we can give his phone #. Good luck , Ron

Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: BradH] #1519124
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OP - " I'd like to make it last a long time". Unfortunately, it's the mind set of a lot of people these days when it comes to choosing a cam. - - - - At this point, I decided to dial back my reply and just say to the OP - keep some of your hard earned $ in your pocket and go with a mild Hydraulic flat tappet in your application.


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Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: chryco] #1519125
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Hello, I'm using this Comp Cams hydraulic roller in my street low deck 470. http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/cam-specs/Details.aspx?csid=1443&sb=2 Nice cam, tons of torque and idles nice. If I had to do it over again. I would of went with the next step up for a 470. But it's a great street cam. Here's what it sounds like at idle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr70kGtPmPA Good Luck

Re: Hydraulic roller cam for 383 street car [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #1519126
10/18/13 07:57 PM
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they run ok, i had one in my RR for a while. kind of my experience they usually start to give up around 5800-6000. some people will argue that they go 7 grand but untill i see it on a dyno sheet im not buying it without some ultra trick parts. i took mine up to 6500 a few times but it just didn't make the power. and i've built plenty of HR engines that went 7 grand, they just weren't BB mopars.

here it is with the custom ground HR
246/246 @ .050 .557/.557 110 in at 106

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvjASGMizBU&feature=share&list=UUD85GeZ0RfJbEUTdd2p-P_g

and i swapped it out for a old "obsolete" purple cam. both very similar just this one is a solid flat tappet (& it runs like it has another 75 horse)
252/252 @ 0.050 .557/.557 110 in @ 105

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYAGX7_iIxw&feature=share&list=UUD85GeZ0RfJbEUTdd2p-P_g


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