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Getting back into it, my Super Comp whip is almost ready to go. Hope to be ready by the Nov Divisional in Vegas. Curtis 
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Re: ANYone given-up on that .90 racing ? ....
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10/11/13 01:33 AM
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Was once dream of mine to run super gas. I cant deal with the way it is now. Plus I cant afford it Pretty much need a pro stock car and a throttle stop. Totally ruined it for me. I wont even watch them at the nationals or divisional races. Stock, super stock and comp for me..
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Re: ANYone given-up on that .90 racing ? ....
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When NHRA decided to adopt the Pro Gas format that originated at Sacremento, CA drag strip they changed the index to 9.90. This was before the electronic throttle stops and all the other electronic boxes and pneumatic gear that is used today. When it was first offered at the local tracks the racer turn out was huge due to the rules at that time  I have since heard of several NHRA tech. officals calling the new 9.90 class Sewer Gas from the get go  Same thing on the Stock, SS, Modifeid Eliminator and Comp Racers, they all bad mouth the .90 index racers, even though they all race on a index based system  Pick your poison and go racing  
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Re: ANYone given-up on that .90 racing ? ....
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10/11/13 11:21 AM
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It's easy come on out... AS for the fan comments...Have you been to a national event the last few years..You are lucky to keep people in the seats for all the fuel classes anymore 
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Re: ANYone given-up on that .90 racing ? ....
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10/11/13 12:06 PM
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Did you ever watch the crowd in the grand stands when the .90 cars come to the line? It is like an intermission time and over half of the crowd gets up and goes to the pits or elsewhere. What would keep the crowd in their seats for these classes? Flat out racing?
The first time I seen it I didn't know where everyone was going. Then I seen a couple throttle stop cars go down the track and I knew why.
They shouldn't allow throttle stops and then the class would be more like a real race.
Bracket racing is what killed the interest in drag racing. Drag racing nationwide was more popular than NASCAR when I was a kid. Bracket racing isn't racing. I agree its fun but not in the spirit of racing where the goal is to run as fast as you can run.
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Did you ever watch the crowd in the grand stands when the .90 cars come to the line? It is like an intermission time and over half of the crowd gets up and goes to the pits or elsewhere. What would keep the crowd in their seats for these classes? Flat out racing?
The first time I seen it I didn't know where everyone was going. Then I seen a couple throttle stop cars go down the track and I knew why.
They shouldn't allow throttle stops and then the class would be more like a real race.
Bracket racing is what killed the interest in drag racing. Drag racing nationwide was more popular than NASCAR when I was a kid. Bracket racing isn't racing. I agree its fun but not in the spirit of racing where the goal is to run as fast as you can run.
I give up...  ...yep..run what you brung...he with the most money wins. See how many guys you get at the track after awhile...gets boring losing to the fastest car all the time.
Wow some folks just don't get it...and never will. 
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I give up... ...yep..run what you brung...he with the most money wins. See how many guys you get at the track after awhile...gets boring losing to the fastest car all the time.
In some of the heads up classes, its not only a matter of the deepest pockets, its also favoritism when they modify rules to penalize one brand of car and reward another... go look at HotStreet
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I ran 10.90 for 10 years and gave it up in 2003 for the following reasons:
1. Both local tracks gave up their divisional races. Edgewater race moved to St. Louis, Tri-State switched from IHRA to NHRA. Columbus race moved to Norwalk. Went from having 5-6 events 100 miles or less from home to only 1 at Indy.
2. Entry fees during that time went from $60 to $120, purse money stayed the same.
3. They used to run a gambler race or super shootout on saturday night, along with TAD and TAFC qualifying to attract fans. They pared it down over time so that now you get 2 time runs friday, 2 time runs saturday, then run eliminations sunday. I was told by Redman that NHRA wanted all activities finished for the day by 5:00 PM to save on worker pay. I know there are exceptions such as Norwalk where they run funny cars and have fireworks and pack the stands, but the majority of the races have no spectators.
4. Revenue enhancement rules such as engine diapers and fire pants required in 10.90, not required for 10-second Stockers and S/S's.
Overall I love the format of heads-up pro tree racing but these changes over the years have run off most of the racers. There used to be a large contingent of .90 class racers in this area, most now bracket race or quit.
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10/11/13 03:35 PM
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Was once dream of mine to run super gas. I cant deal with the way it is now. Plus I can afford it Pretty much need a pro stock car and a throttle stop.
I dont feel this is the case to be able to be competative in s/g, while the norm these days (at least in nhra) is to have a s/g car run 160-170 mph on the stop, you don't have to go that fast to win, you have to know what you car is capable of and play the game, practice and seat time make you good, there are plenty of bad a** s/g drivers out there running mid 140's and winning, also .90 racing is alive and well up here in the northeast, we have 2 series for 10.90 and 9.90 that have great payouts, and get very good car counts with some of the toughest racing I have seen, they are the TNT superseries for 10.90 and the western new york 9.90 series, both well run
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Re: ANYone given-up on that .90 racing ? ....
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10/11/13 04:34 PM
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Your giving up? and you haven't even started yet? Why don't you race your mini van with a 440 in the bozo class?
Chilly1 ....WHY do you insist on coming after me ... and then you wind up with EGG ...or something else  .... all over your face ?
WHAT does that Caravan project have ANYTHING TO DO with this topic HERE ? ... I have never had a .90 car and this Caravan was not being considered for that ...as far as I was concerned.
And you think that me considering a project like this is a BOZO CLASS ? Are you THIS totally-clueless and completely blind to the history and survival of Chrysler Corp ? .... If it was not for the minivan ... Chrysler would have been dead-and-buried in the late 80's ...
And as far as me actually doing the project ? ... IF I found a chassis shop that would do the TWO 2000 Grand Caravans reasonably(it is not a complex project) .. I would deliver both of them to them before I left from northern MI.
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Re: ANYone given-up on that .90 racing ? ....
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10/11/13 07:45 PM
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Here you go....
http://motormaniatv.com/?page_id=529
It's the throttle stop and the electronics that ruin the class for me.
The first time my 5 year old seen this class I think it took me a day to explain to him why the cars weren't going when the light turned green. He just couldn't understand. He kept asking why aren't they going?
I might run some 10.00 index races. There you got to get the car to run the number without electronic help. It's more of a heads up race. Foot brake only.
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C B ..... Don't remember the year but it was the first year that SG was run at the Gators .... I still have the final qualifying sheet somewhere ....
Qt .... eventually I will be but only if the money is decent on the brackets. I was considering that 27T car for sst and SG but based on what I know now ...I think I will pass on that. No $$$$ in brackets ? ... I might just keep that FED I have just fit test and tune ...
not sure i understand what you are saying. if you are planning on winning money in any class forget about it.
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10/12/13 10:53 AM
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I don`t see were bracket racing killed drag racing it allowed people that don`t have big budgets to compete in almost any type of car. Thats thousands of people paying / contributing to NHRA not to mention keeping race tracks open sure they aren`t a big spectator draw but there are thousands of bracket racers around the country competing every week. I really like Stock and Super /Stock but financially its out of my reach so I bracket race and might try heads up racing next year. I give the 90s class drivers a lot of credit it might not be appealing but it takes a lot of skill. A close friend of mine, a former Super/Comp and successful bracket racer tried running Super/ Street a year or so ago in a friends car and found out how hard it really was, he wasn`t too successful
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How many on here are strictly KEYBOARD racers?? I am going to guess an overwhelming majority. Also gonna guess almost everyone on the negative side has never even tried to run any of the .90 stuff. Amazes me how many people love to bash .90 racing when most dont even understand why or what we are doing.
It just amazes me the lack of understanding yet the willingness to bash on any form of drag racing. Those of us ouot here in the west see how fragiel our sport is. If you choose to sit on the sidelines and not race we have seen what happnes. Tracks close!!! Maybe instead of constantly bashing the sport you might try getting out of your easy chair and in the shop and build a car an come racing..If not you may all get your wish and there will be NO PLACE to race. Then maybe you all will be happy, but I doubt it...
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.....after watching that video link Eric posted and all those throttle-stop "games" ..... I have to ask that question ....... there is guy on here that can make perfect stuff but is "retired" ...
Yo GEEtar - test-hits huh ? - you been hangin-with those OKC Monkey OUTlaws too much ! ... and next time get all your stuff('vert-hub and motor) "certed" by that chassis guy ...
Can someone translate that?
Translate WHAT specifically ? ... that GEEtar wordage is an inside-joke/jab directed a guy who plays the banjo I think ..
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C B ..... Don't remember the year but it was the first year that SG was run at the Gators .... I still have the final qualifying sheet somewhere ....
Qt .... eventually I will be but only if the money is decent on the brackets. I was considering that 27T car for sst and SG but based on what I know now ...I think I will pass on that. No $$$$ in brackets ? ... I might just keep that FED I have just fit test and tune ...
not sure i understand what you are saying. if you are planning on winning money in any class forget about it.
Qt .... other than LIBspeak ... I think you have difficulty with the rest of the English language  
And if I can not at least BREAK EVEN on the expenses of competition racing - big money brackets etc(other than the initial cost of the car) ...I will not do it.
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Go get a hot dog when the .90 guys come out...I assure you we really don't care if you are watching or not.. 
E ....I watched that link again ... how about that Iggie car !  ...
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How many on here are strictly KEYBOARD racers?? I am going to guess an overwhelming majority. Also gonna guess almost everyone on the negative side has never even tried to run any of the .90 stuff. Amazes me how many people love to bash .90 racing when most dont even understand why or what we are doing.
It just amazes me the lack of understanding yet the willingness to bash on any form of drag racing. Those of us ouot here in the west see how fragiel our sport is. If you choose to sit on the sidelines and not race we have seen what happnes. Tracks close!!! Maybe instead of constantly bashing the sport you might try getting out of your easy chair and in the shop and build a car an come racing..If not you may all get your wish and there will be NO PLACE to race. Then maybe you all will be happy, but I doubt it...
Big Al ... I don't think anyone here is bashing ... at least not from me.
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C B ..... Don't remember the year but it was the first year that SG was run at the Gators .... I still have the final qualifying sheet somewhere ....
MF, I remeber that. Was back in '82 or '83. My buddy won the Division 1 S/G title back in '82 and he drove down to the Gators AND drove back as he didn't qualify.
I'm not going to knock it, but I really loved S/G back then. But going 9's in a door car was FAST. And the few door cars that ran S/C, 8.X back then... 
MEANT to take all these in order ...sorry I missed yours ... but maybe this is the bestest of them all ....
People were IN THE STANDS for this !! .... and it was neat racing ... lots of braking and WHOOP WHOOPS in the lites .....
#1 qualifier was Bob Marshall ...9.900 ... and there were THREE of those. The bump ? ... a 91 with a 3. 
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