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Camshaft Question #1512967
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I am wondering what would be the max lift and duration for a mildy ported w2
head? Another question of mine besides that which is more of a pet peve but how is some of these people going 10's with a small cam like .520-.560 lift and 250-260
duration? Also with eddy heads or j/x heads. Normally not w2's. This is for small blocks only! As far as cam styles both solid flat tappet and solid roller. From what I've seen it was always solid flat tappet cams with the low lifts
putting up the good numbers. Me personaly I'm looking to use a solid roller cam.

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It's all in the heads !

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I am wondering what would be the max lift and duration for a mildy ported w2
head? Another question of mine besides that which is more of a pet peve but how is some of these people going 10's with a small cam like .520-.560 lift and 250-260
duration? Also with eddy heads or j/x heads. Normally not w2's. This is for small blocks only! As far as cam styles both solid flat tappet and solid roller. From what I've seen it was always solid flat tappet cams with the low lifts
putting up the good numbers. Me personaly I'm looking to use a solid roller cam.


Look around for flow bench results for your heads and then get a cam that has .030 to .080 more lift than the best valve opening lift so you can take advantage of the heads flow, twice when the valves open and close


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I see thank you for the replies!

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Most times bigger is not better with cams. Big cams over rated. If your wallet is tied to your gas pedal, stay away from roller cams. Much more expense and alot more maintenance.

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How is a roller cam much more maint? I dont have maint issues with any of mine

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Maybe he means for the roller lifters that need rebuilt every so often. We all know
roller equipped parts are more money but it's the way to go!

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Anyone know what the best valve opening lift is on a set of box stock w2's and plus .030-.080 on top of that for a cam?

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Anyone know what the best valve opening lift is on a set of box stock w2's and plus .030-.080 on top of that for a cam?




What's your current piston to valve clearnace ?

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I don't have a current P/V clearance since I'm in the process of a new build. I'd just like to know what Cab said that applies to a stock w2 so I can get a general idea.

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there are more than two different W2 castings and types, the Econo and race plus there are probally differents in when they where cast. It would be best to have one chamber in each one of your heads flowed, do all of them if you can swing that also Then decide on your cam choice


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Maybe he means for the roller lifters that need rebuilt every so often. We all know
roller equipped parts are more money but it's the way to go!




The solid roller lifters in my SB have over 8000 street miles on them and appox 60 passes on them, they have never been rebuilt. Check them at 5000 miles and they looked like new.

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Because the chassis works and is a bigger part of running an ET than the engine.

Only takes about 475-500hp to run a high 10 in a 3100# car. That's not a hard HP goal to achieve now.

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So let me get this straight and see if we are all on the same page. If I take my lightly
touched up w2 heads. Use a small .520-.550 solid cam. My m1 intake manifold thats been touched up. Between 10:1-11:1 cr. Correct carb, headers, ect. With the right 8"
converter, gear, and chassis. @ 2800 lbs it should go well into the 10's with around 360 cubes?!

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So let me get this straight and see if we are all on the same page. If I take my lightly
touched up w2 heads. Use a small .520-.550 solid cam. My m1 intake manifold thats been touched up. Between 10:1-11:1 cr. Correct carb, headers, ect. With the right 8"
converter, gear, and chassis. @ 2800 lbs it should go well into the 10's with around 360 cubes?!




My 360 that made 529HP on our dyno, pushed my 3120lb car (3320 with me) to 10.70's all day.
W2 heads that I ported flowed 280cfm at .500 lift, 250-258 solid FT cam, victor intake, 950HP carb, 11.5:1 compression (mixed pump and race gas 50/50).
I also had KB 107's, stock rods, stock crank, filled block, nothing really crazy. MP 1.6 rockers.
I do have a low gear 904 and 4.56 gear, went through the traps at 7050 most times at 125mph.

So yes, 10's are very doable but we race cars not dyno's or flow benches so as always, your results may vary
Brian


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Brian, do you have any flow sheets for the econo W2 before porting that you could post or send a copy if the flow sheet to the OP? ?


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Brian, do you have any flow sheets for the econo W2 before porting that you could post or send a copy if the flow sheet to the OP? ?




They topped out at 252 cfm on my bench with the 3/8 stem MP 2.02 valves and out of the box valve job.


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Brian, do you have any flow sheets for the econo W2 before porting that you could post or send a copy if the flow sheet to the OP? ?




They topped out at 252 cfm on my bench with the 3/8 stem MP 2.02 valves and out of the box valve job.


Thanks, at what lift ?


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Brian, do you have any flow sheets for the econo W2 before porting that you could post or send a copy if the flow sheet to the OP? ?




They topped out at 252 cfm on my bench with the 3/8 stem MP 2.02 valves and out of the box valve job.


Thanks, at what lift ?




That was at .550 lift and stayed there.


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My small block uses a small solid roller from Comp (XR286R, 248/254 duration with .576/.582 lift) ported Edelbrocks, 10.8:1 compression, 750 carb, 727, 8" converter, 4.10 gear, 3200 lbs...will run 10.70's, but I'm expecting to get it into the 10.60's when the air gets cooler.

No issues with the roller cam on my street/strip car...its been in there for 4 years now...many street miles and over 300 passes on the strip.


67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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