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best way to remove t bars- for good!
#1507130
09/24/13 09:43 PM
09/24/13 09:43 PM
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Im kicking around the idea of tubular k along with tubular LCA's and UCA's.
I see Bondo bobs stuff looks nice, and i know there is huge debate on whose system is best and who's is junk.... I don't want to hear that.
I am wondering, can i start small, replace the control arms, and remove the t bars, then at a a later date move to the k frame.
Ideally I want a tube k, with a mustang II rack, tube uppers, and lowers with some nice coil overs. But i don't have 4k to throw at it right now.
so how do i start small???
I am under the impression i must go to tube uppers to clear any coil over. and once i have the coil over in, something different has to be done to the lower to remove the torsion bar for good. I don't know, just what i was told a while ago.
so maybe i should start by asking, " what must be done to eliminate my torsion bars"??
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
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#1507132
09/24/13 11:19 PM
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Mesa, Arizona
6pak2go
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<quote> I am wondering, can I start small, replace the control arms, and remove the t bars, then at a later date move to the k frame? <end quote> Here's an option I've just run across. I have no idea of the quality. http://www.dillingerchassis.com/store/
Robert R
Mesa, AZ
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67 Barracuda FB 540 4-Sp Strip/Street and Drag Week
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
[Re: 6pak2go]
#1507134
09/24/13 11:34 PM
09/24/13 11:34 PM
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Here's an option I've just run across. I have no idea of the quality.
http://www.dillingerchassis.com/store/
if you're in need Robert give Comp Chassis a call in Glendale. Mike fabbed up my tube K for the Duster. They did work on our old car so I didn't even think twice on who to go to with the Duster.
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
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#1507135
09/25/13 07:18 AM
09/25/13 07:18 AM
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Leon441
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To simply remove the torsion bars. On the lower control arm you can make a rear support collar that goes around the socket the torsion bar slides into. You still need a coil over shock with mods to the shock tower to stiffen it up. Unless you want to ride on the stops.
Leon
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
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#1507139
09/25/13 08:54 PM
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I am wondering, can I start small, replace the control arms, and remove the t bars, then at a later date move to the k frame?
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Here's an option I've just run across. I have no idea of the quality.
http://www.dillingerchassis.com/store/
what happened I thought he made some nice looking stuff reasonable
John Dillinger is not currently making any chassis parts....
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
[Re: modelmakerinc]
#1507140
09/25/13 09:39 PM
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Not to hi-jack but, would this bar tied to the firewall, welded to the cage, frame rail and shock tower have enough support to run the front coil-overs?
It wouldn't scare me.
Doug
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
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#1507141
09/25/13 09:58 PM
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Not to hi-jack but, would this bar tied to the firewall, welded to the cage, frame rail and shock tower have enough support to run the front coil-overs?
It wouldn't scare me.
Doug
That wouldnt bother me either... BUT on the street
I would had a bar(maybe 2) on either side of the tower
down to the lower frame rail for added strength..
put them in on a angle to follow the tower.. but thats
just me... I know for the street you want added strength
at least on Mich roads(they suck big time)... I worry
about my strut suspension on our roads
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
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#1507142
09/26/13 01:38 AM
09/26/13 01:38 AM
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On my 64
We had Tube A-arms , upper and lower ..
Made a piece to support the lower A-arm
Ran a "stock" K-frame , trimmed a bunch
Qa1 coil overs ..
and way stiffer than recommend springs , had to ..
long story ..made most of it ourselves ..
Had to re-engineer a bunch of what a kit someone sold me , it was poo, he no longer is in business
it all looked good but , would not work like he thought ..so, we tossed most of it away ..
After a couple months working on it off and on, worked like a champ
I'm not 100% sure there is a bolt and go set up out there now
(alterkation looks like best option but , its $$)
Bobs stuff seems like it works right too, but again ??.never bought so, don't have 1st hand knowledge of it
I do think you can improve on stock but .. ??
Here is the car once we got it working right
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
[Re: bigdad]
#1507143
09/26/13 09:43 AM
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onig
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Hey bigdad,
any pics of your front end.
69 Dart
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
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09/26/13 10:14 AM
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I started out small by just replacing the upper controll arms and added coilovers and left the stock lower controll arms in place untill later, as far as the torsion bars, I just removed them and then drilled and tapped the mounting stud that go's into the K member inside the hex hole where the front segment of the T bar was and used a grade 8 bolt and a thick washer that just fit the hex hole and loctited it into place,,ran it that way for years untill I was able to afford to replace the lower controll arms and radius rods, I am still using the stock K member to this day, yes it's been lightened some and modified to fit my oil pan. 
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
[Re: onig]
#1507145
09/26/13 07:37 PM
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bigdad
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Hey bigdad,
any pics of your front end.
Yeah,somewhere ...
Might take me some time to dig them up
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Re: best way to remove t bars- for good!
[Re: dartman366]
#1507150
09/29/13 01:10 AM
09/29/13 01:10 AM
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wine country
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I started out small by just replacing the upper controll arms and added coilovers and left the stock lower controll arms in place untill later, as far as the torsion bars, I just removed them and then drilled and tapped the mounting stud that go's into the K member inside the hex hole where the front segment of the T bar was and used a grade 8 bolt and a thick washer that just fit the hex hole and loctited it into place,,ran it that way for years untill I was able to afford to replace the lower controll arms and radius rods, I am still using the stock K member to this day, yes it's been lightened some and modified to fit my oil pan.
i guess i need to get under my car, because when i read this, then re read i am just lost without pics.
but it definitely sounds do able... i think.
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