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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: amxautox]
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09/06/13 12:19 PM
09/06/13 12:19 PM
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MuuMuu101
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The real answer for me would be...
Mustangs are tiny... small no room inside..I dont think our puppy would be confortable in the reat seat...,and I cant even squeeze my legs in the front seat...
Was that a better idea? 
Buy a real car... Challenger SRT 392...
Strange your legs don't fit in the Mustang because it has more than the Challenger :
Front Leg Room: Challenger 42 in. Mustang 42.7 in.
What is the distance between the floor and under the dash edge on each vehicle?
He has a good point actually. Our baja car had some serious ergonomics issues this last year. We designed the seat cushions for our drivers who are anywhere between 5' 2-10" and 130-160 lbs. When a design judge who was 6' 3" and weighed 250 lbs decided to hop in, he was definitely not comfortable. Part of the issue was the placement of our shifter and turning brake as well. With the current cushions that are in there now, I cannot fit in the car. I'm 5' 7" and ~210-220 lbs; however, I have thick thighs. My legs don't even fit between the steering wheel and either the turning brake or the shifter. However, when you remove the lower cushion and put in one about half its size (3" to 1.5" thick), which lowers me deeper into the seat, I fit like a glove and have no problem. Same thing is true for the back padding.
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: jcc]
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09/06/13 01:38 PM
09/06/13 01:38 PM
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Plymouth, MI
Blusmbl
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That spin comment might be a little unfair, people's legs / body shapes are not defined by a single measurement. If he says it doesn't fit him, it doesn't fit him. Of course you could have actually have asked him to be clrear has he sat in both recently, wearing similar clothes, I guess, 
I'm 6' 4", 34" inseam, approximately 300# of awesomeness. I fit in the newer Mustangs fine.
'18 Ford Raptor, random motorcycles, 1968 Plymouth Fury III - 11.37 @ 118
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: Blusmbl]
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09/06/13 01:48 PM
09/06/13 01:48 PM
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Supercuda
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Most mass produced vehicles are designed to fit the 95th percentile. That means it fits 95% of the population out there. If you don't fit, you are probably in the 5%.
Of course, depending on the location it was designed in, the 95% might be different. A case in point, the original, designed in Japan, vehicles didn't fit taller Americans all that well. They eventually fixed that.
If you look at those Buick commercials with Shaq sitting in there you see he's outside the 95%.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: Supercuda]
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09/06/13 02:09 PM
09/06/13 02:09 PM
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SoCal
MuuMuu101
I got lucky at Woodward!
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I got lucky at Woodward!
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Most mass produced vehicles are designed to fit the 95th percentile. That means it fits 95% of the population out there. If you don't fit, you are probably in the 5%.
Of course, depending on the location it was designed in, the 95% might be different. A case in point, the original, designed in Japan, vehicles didn't fit taller Americans all that well. They eventually fixed that.
If you look at those Buick commercials with Shaq sitting in there you see he's outside the 95%.
I've seen Pimp My Ride when I was younger and they always had to modify the cars for him to fit in it. So you'll never know. 
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: PHJ426]
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09/06/13 04:27 PM
09/06/13 04:27 PM
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San Francisco Bay Area
MrAngry
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Guys - You're over thinking this.
Here's a quick breakdown.
- Mustang GT = Cheap fun. Drop some coin on a good suspension set-up wheels and tires and for under $40K you've got a great car with usable back seats for smaller passengers. I'm 6'4" / 250 and I fit fine up front. Back seat is not an option.
- Camaro SS ILE = Will out handle a new track pack Mustang GT on the track. Straight line speed is about even. Back seat almost unusable. Headroom it tight if you're over 6'1" and visibility is awful regardless of size. They can be had for around $38-41K depending on your negotiating skills. These cars need nothing in handling department except a competent driver.
- Challenger SRT8: This is NOT a track car. It's too big and heavy with WAY to little tire underneath it. However, as open road GT car it's great. Wonderful seats, big power and fast, plus a usable back seat and trunk. However those big rear b-pillars hurt visibility. It's also BIG money compared to the other 2.
Never trust a pretty girl... or a lonely midget.
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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09/07/13 02:56 PM
09/07/13 02:56 PM
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Fly Over States
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Hey Mitch This is definitely a fairly difficult decision to make. Having a couple of old Mopars and not having any creature comforts in either except a set of factory buckets in one of them a bench seat in the other.....doesn't even get me to a proper seat to drive in a track at. All the other items are stock but the Runner has factory swaybars front and rear. Still doesn't get it close to being the car I would like it to be...... So one of them will be enjoyed by someone else and the other will become a nice cruiser that I want to handle well but I will not expect it to become as capable of track duties as the Mustang...... Mitch...When I get all the ducks in a row and the Mustang is around we will have to hit the track with your and your Challenger. This car here on Ebay looks to be a great deal: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-GT-...=US_Cars_Trucks
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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09/07/13 03:05 PM
09/07/13 03:05 PM
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Santa Fe Springs, CA
Dan@Hotchkis
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As I've watched this thread, I can add that my cool T/a is still one of the most popular "pony cars" at shows and any autx/road course events. I love driving it.. handles great, etc.
Last night (Fri) I went to a local show ~500 cars (w/o my T/A) and I looked over ~5 new Boss 302 cars.. very impressiven (I prefer the SC500 supercharged model). I asked and one owner allowed me to sit in his Recaro seat.. very good bolster!.. (similar to my seats in my Chally). Of interest, the owner told me that he paid ~$40k; and... when you buy a new one Ford offers to take you on road race tracks to "teach you how to drive your new Boss 302 car...".. that's cool! Ford is really catering to the pony car market better than any other mfgr. I hope to actually "compete" against these new Boss 302 cars at some local road race tracks (when I eventually have better sticky tires)... I believe that I could stay with them (excluding the highest speed tracks where O/D becomes required), maybe do better than a few.... but as we all know.. the "nut behind the wheel" will make the most difference.
At the last SDR-SCCA Autocross a friend of mine was doing some 200tw tire testing in his Mustang on the Saturday practice while I was running the Challenger. The fastest tire he tried was the Falken 615K, and with those was about 2 seconds off of my pace. The following day, when he was back on his slicks, he had me covered by about a second. He is a really good driver and is in the running for a jacket in ESP with a bone stock 2012 5.0 with tires.
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: PHJ426]
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09/07/13 03:13 PM
09/07/13 03:13 PM
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Nebraska
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Mopar really needed a car in between a Charger/300 and a Viper. Instead we got another Charger with different skin and 2 doors. I was pissed then and still am. On top of that they suck at supporting the aftermarket, unless you're a Viper guy, with stuff like "hey here is the code for the 2013 SRT8's if you want to swap pistons and put on 2 turboes with the factory computer". They continue to shoot themselves in the foot with hot rodders. I dont care about some strut tower braces and a cold air kit that say Mopar on them, I want the baddest car on the block if im spending that kind of cash.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar
[Re: PHJ426]
#1494203
09/07/13 04:48 PM
09/07/13 04:48 PM
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I agree we are fortunate to have choices. I can still remember cars that were coming out of Detroit in the 80's. they have come a long way.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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