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Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar #1494106 09/01/13 09:05 PM 09/01/13 09:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States P PHJ426 OP master
PHJ426 OP master P Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States	So if you could only have one (limited garage space) would you try and get an old Mopar B/E body to handle or just sell it and get a newer Mustang 2011 - 2014 either a Boss 302, Roush Stage 3, Shelby, Saleen etc etc........

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: PHJ426] #1494107 09/01/13 09:06 PM 09/01/13 09:06 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,658 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,658 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	old Mopar, better looking than the new mustangs. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: PHJ426] #1494108 09/01/13 09:07 PM 09/01/13 09:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	A mustang 500 or a GTR. assuming the price range Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: jcc] #1494109 09/01/13 09:31 PM 09/01/13 09:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	For the money it would take quite a bit of work to compete with a new Boss on the track. If you can do the work yourself, go old Mope. If you aren't a do it yourselfer the Boss could be a better bang for the buck. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: PHJ426] #1494110 09/01/13 09:35 PM 09/01/13 09:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	Build a green brick.

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: PHJ426] #1494111 09/01/13 09:56 PM 09/01/13 09:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Well with the entry fee of an E Body, it would be quite difficult to get it to handle and perform like a Boss 302. Let's just say $25k for a decent 340 car or better. Redo the entire suspension, wheels, and brakes with good performance stuff may cost $10k at the bare minimum. If you're going to make it handle like a Boss 302, you better make it as comfortable and have as much power. So add some goodies to the 340 as well as a T56. Install more comfortable seats with add ons. You may be able to make an equivalent car out of it for the same price if you do all the work yourself. If it was me personally and I had to choose between an E or B Body, I'd probably start off with like a '65-67 or '71-74 B-Body and upgrade from there. Much cheaper to get into and you don't see many "pro-touring" early or late B's. Only problem is they're much heavier than a Boss 302.

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1494112 09/01/13 10:22 PM 09/01/13 10:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	Quote: Build a green brick. Or any other A-body. These are a much better starting point than a B or E...

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1494113 09/01/13 10:25 PM 09/01/13 10:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Quote: Quote: Build a green brick. Or any other A-body. These are a much better starting point than a B or E... <--- Is trying to do but is going to need many many years...

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: MuuMuu101] #1494114 09/01/13 11:32 PM 09/01/13 11:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross super stock
67autocross super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	I have both old cars/trucks and new cars/trucks and more and more I find I don't really drive the old stuff very often. Now as far as a Boss 302 I looked ( and still think ) about getting one every time I see one, but I can't justify the extra money over a Mustang GT with the track pack option. In the States you can pick them up for around $30K new with the Recaro seats, this car would be tough to beat on the track for the money. Plus they get 30mpg on the highway. A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: 67autocross] #1494115 09/02/13 12:28 AM 09/02/13 12:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	I love my track pack mustang. Base 2014 mustang with ricaro's sync and track pack stickers for 37-38 grand. I ended up about 32000 plus tt&l. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: dannysbee] #1494116 09/02/13 12:40 AM 09/02/13 12:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross super stock
67autocross super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: I love my track pack mustang. Base 2014 mustang with ricaro's sync and track pack stickers for 37-38 grand. I ended up about 32000 plus tt&l. Plus if you spend another $8000 on a paxton or whipple and some good tires you will have a new car that runs 10's all day at the drag strip, for $40000. A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: 67autocross] #1494117 09/02/13 01:01 AM 09/02/13 01:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Quote: Quote: I love my track pack mustang. Base 2014 mustang with ricaro's sync and track pack stickers for 37-38 grand. I ended up about 32000 plus tt&l. Plus if you spend another $8000 on a paxton or whipple and some good tires you will have a new car that runs 10's all day at the drag strip , for $40000. Not in the handling section...

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: MuuMuu101] #1494118 09/02/13 01:11 AM 09/02/13 01:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,432 NorCal RylisPro top fuel
RylisPro top fuel Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,432 NorCal	Quote: Well with the entry fee of an E Body, it would be quite difficult to get it to handle and perform like a Boss 302. Let's just say $25k for a decent 340 car or better. Redo the entire suspension, wheels, and brakes with good performance stuff may cost $10k at the bare minimum. If you're going to make it handle like a Boss 302, you better make it as comfortable and have as much power. So add some goodies to the 340 as well as a T56. Install more comfortable seats with add ons. You may be able to make an equivalent car out of it for the same price if you do all the work yourself. Haha this is exactly what I am doing to my car! 73 `Cuda Instagram: @rylispro YouTube: RylisPro www.rylispro.com 925-214-9192

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: RylisPro] #1494119 09/02/13 02:14 AM 09/02/13 02:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Quote: Quote: Well with the entry fee of an E Body, it would be quite difficult to get it to handle and perform like a Boss 302. Let's just say $25k for a decent 340 car or better. Redo the entire suspension, wheels, and brakes with good performance stuff may cost $10k at the bare minimum. If you're going to make it handle like a Boss 302, you better make it as comfortable and have as much power. So add some goodies to the 340 as well as a T56. Install more comfortable seats with add ons. You may be able to make an equivalent car out of it for the same price if you do all the work yourself. Haha this is exactly what I am doing to my car! Hence my post...

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: MuuMuu101] #1494120 09/02/13 08:54 AM 09/02/13 08:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada brads70 super stock
brads70 super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada	Around here Mustangs quite often have a Domino's Pizza signs on them. Anyone can own one, not everyone can own a classic Mopar, and even fewer that handle decent. My car will never handle like a new Vette or Viper but for me the fun is trying and working with what you have. Nothing makes me grin more than coming up behind a BMW, Vette etc on a hwy on ramp or cloverleaf and filling his rear view mirror with a Dodge grill. Then having him accelerate and keep checking his mirror every 2 seconds and can't believe I'm still there!

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: MuuMuu101] #1494121 09/02/13 10:08 AM 09/02/13 10:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross super stock
67autocross super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: I love my track pack mustang. Base 2014 mustang with ricaro's sync and track pack stickers for 37-38 grand. I ended up about 32000 plus tt&l. Plus if you spend another $8000 on a paxton or whipple and some good tires you will have a new car that runs 10's all day at the drag strip , for $40000. Not in the handling section... Ha Ha....well the supercharger will make it faster on the road race track as well. Here's a good example from Mickey Thompson, I would take a lot of work for any older car to run with it given equal driving skill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HExdX6pYP0 A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: 67autocross] #1494122 09/02/13 11:57 AM 09/02/13 11:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	If you have the talent and the time you could probably build an a body to do everything the mustang does. I don't think you can match the performance, handling and comfort with the same price tag as the mustang. It's definitely a give and take situation either way you go. But some of us are short on time working jobs with long hours and time away from home. I am spending my time off enjoying my family and the mustang when I get a chance. It ain't a Mopar but it sure is fun. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: dannysbee] #1494123 09/02/13 02:45 PM 09/02/13 02:45 PM
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PHJ426 OP master P Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States	The Track Pack option seems to be the way to go for best bang for the buck. http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/features/#page=Feature8

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: PHJ426] #1494124 09/02/13 03:27 PM 09/02/13 03:27 PM
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8urvette super stock 8 Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 781 wine country	anyone can buy that mustang. and they do, i live in "wealthy" area. I see white haired (blue hairs) ladies driving cts-v's, vettes, gt500's, etc etc etc...I almost never see classic cars on the road anymore. But when i do they get a big thumbs up from me!

Re: Boss 302 Mustang or old Mopar [Re: 8urvette] #1494125 09/02/13 04:04 PM 09/02/13 04:04 PM
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PHJ426 OP master P Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States	Well currently I own a 72 Road Runner factory N96 air grabber car.....I bought it 15 years ago when nobody in the Mopar hobby looked at cars built after 1970 unless it was an E body. Now the Runner is a factory bench seat car so to put a decent pair of bucket seats is going to be a minimum of $1K for a decent pair of Corbeau's Front brake kit from/ used Viper Brembos/decent pads/ another $1K Rear brake kit $600 Suspension kit from Hotchkiss $3,300 Tires and Wheels another $1,500 A quick paint job and we are adding another $5k to the price tag and we still don't have air conditioning or other cool features a newer car already has on the table. The entry point for even a 71 or 2 B body is pretty high these days making this equation more lopsided. It is not as bad with the price I paid for the car back in 1999 but today's pricing for these undesirable cars in the Mopar ranks makes it pretty unsustainable exercise for us that have to watch our budgets and spending. I could easily see this could be a $15K exercise after its all done with this phase and we all know you are never "done" with projects like this. Don't get me wrong I have always had old Mopars even when they were not the cool ones, slant 6 Dusters, 1970 Fury suburban wagons, 1979 Dodge 4x4's but these days with the everyday grind of work, family obligations, kids and little honey do's around the house there isn't much time to play Chip Foose in the attached garage....... Might be better off keeping the Road Runner stock and accept it for the car it is from the factory and get something else to run through the gears at a track.

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