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How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG #1470088 07/19/13 12:10 AM 07/19/13 12:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska Brian_wo OP master
Brian_wo OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	So my Hemi showed up The guy I got it from had 5,now down to two and said that two of them had a tag that said Cummins on them,good news is this one does not,he thinks this is an Arrow built one,any way to tell? who is that guy?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470089 07/19/13 03:30 AM 07/19/13 03:30 AM
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a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	I don't know who built it but I hate you right now. I can't afford this. mark

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470090 07/19/13 07:05 AM 07/19/13 07:05 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Send Zippy a PM with that pad info and he should be able to tell you about it. Does have a sticker on the bellhousing flange telling you how big it can be safely bored ?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: JohnRR] #1470091 07/19/13 09:45 AM 07/19/13 09:45 AM
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Brian_wo OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	Thats the area where the guy said the Cummins tag was on two of the crates he had,there is nothing on this one unless it fell off and is in the crate,I will have to stop by his house and look in it. Quote: Send Zippy a PM with that pad info and he should be able to tell you about it. Does have a sticker on the bellhousing flange telling you how big it can be safely bored ? who is that guy?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470092 07/19/13 03:58 PM 07/19/13 03:58 PM
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Brian_wo OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	Sounds like I am out of luck,MP didnt keep track who is that guy?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470093 07/19/13 06:41 PM 07/19/13 06:41 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Thats the area where the guy said the Cummins tag was on two of the crates he had,there is nothing on this one unless it fell off and is in the crate,I will have to stop by his house and look in it. Quote: Send Zippy a PM with that pad info and he should be able to tell you about it. Does have a sticker on the bellhousing flange telling you how big it can be safely bored ? He still has the crate ? If it was done by RECON there will be a "made in canada" sticker on it also a date on the crate , what's the date ? Easiest way to tell if it was made by RECON is to first pull the intake , if it's prior to '05 there is a good chance it will be full of metal chips , after the beginning of '05 you can check up near the top big water holes inside the valley , if you see RED RTV it was done by Cummins ...

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470094 07/19/13 10:27 PM 07/19/13 10:27 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,077 Oregon	The engine shop that I work with just finished up rebuilding a MP crate Hemi. The poor guy who owned that engine ended up paying for it twice. Almost everything needed to be replaced after it had been run for a short time. The motor was full of trash and most of the clearances were wrong. It was really sad to see. The engine ended up being killer nice, but it cost a small fortune for the full rebuild since it took a bunch of time and a ton of replacement parts.

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: AndyF] #1470095 07/19/13 11:48 PM 07/19/13 11:48 PM
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Brian_wo OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	Thats why I am afraid to even run it,will probably just drop it at my machinest to have it looked over and corrected. who is that guy?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470096 07/20/13 01:30 AM 07/20/13 01:30 AM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,077 Oregon	Better safe than sorry. You would probably only be out about $500 for a gasket kit and labor if the engine is put together correctly. If there is bad news inside then the sky is the limit to fix it. If it hasn't been run then it might not cost too much. The engine I looked at had been run a small amount of time which was enough to chew up most of the internals. The bearings, rings and valve train were all set wrong from the factory and it doesn't take much run time for those things to cause major problems when they are wrong.

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: AndyF] #1470097 07/20/13 02:05 AM 07/20/13 02:05 AM
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SSAAHemiFan top fuel S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,431 USA	Arrow built the first versions. The buildups were covered in one of the mopar mags and it specifically said arrow numbered and kept records of all the engines. By the tag it seems your block was #45 ?? Any date codes or foundry markings on the side of the block ? There was also a foundry change or 2 on the early style block's If it's a Arrow motor.. you definately scored call them and ask... http://www.arrowracingengines.com/

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #1470098 07/20/13 10:17 AM 07/20/13 10:17 AM
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billohio enthusiast B Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 344 Ohio	My Cummins only has 472 on the front pad. It has 2 tags on the back. Must stock on good, they were painted over and I scraped paint off and you could still read them. I got mine in a car that had 6000 miles on it and it had already been out. Not sure what was stock but had scat rods, comp cam similar to what should be in it, and ARP head studs. Rear main was leaking so took it out.

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: billohio] #1470099 07/20/13 09:43 PM 07/20/13 09:43 PM
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Brian_wo OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	I emailed Arrow,if I dont hear back from them by Wednesday I will call them,thx who is that guy?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470100 07/23/13 05:26 PM 07/23/13 05:26 PM
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Brian_wo OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	Well that was a kick to the nads,Arrow did not build it. who is that guy?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470101 07/24/13 01:09 AM 07/24/13 01:09 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Well that was a kick to the nads,Arrow did not build it. I'll look at the ID pad on my hemi tomorrow , right now there is a half dozen pissed off wasps in my garage so I'm not going out there ...

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: JohnRR] #1470102 07/24/13 01:13 AM 07/24/13 01:13 AM
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OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post7783294

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: OzHemi] #1470103 07/24/13 11:12 AM 07/24/13 11:12 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post7783294

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: Brian_wo] #1470104 07/24/13 01:14 PM 07/24/13 01:14 PM
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TJP I Live Here T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,527 Omaha Ne	Mine is a cummins built around late 2001, its pad is stamped similar to yours H2355 242 426 (stamped with the numbers 180 out from the above) like yours, hope that makes sense www.tandmautomotive-omaha.com

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: TJP] #1470105 07/24/13 03:58 PM 07/24/13 03:58 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Brian , what numbers are stamped on the ends of the heads ?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: JohnRR] #1470106 07/24/13 04:10 PM 07/24/13 04:10 PM
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mickm master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,179 California	Quote: Quote: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post7783294 i don't get it?

Re: How to ID where a crate Hemi was MFG [Re: mickm] #1470107 07/24/13 04:44 PM 07/24/13 04:44 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Quote: Quote: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post7783294 i don't get it? Handy thread , I have a huge nest coming out of the rake board right above the personal entry door of my garage , I hit the nest last night about 11:30 with wasp spray , a few made it into my garage because I had the overhead door open

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