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518 o/d #1467807
07/14/13 08:53 PM
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anyone using 518 o/d for street and track/what eng and what hp level do you have? what did you do about t/conv, l/up or non l/u? how is it holding up? if bb, what did u use for bellhousing? thanks in advance.

Re: 518 o/d [Re: rbkt65] #1467808
07/14/13 09:31 PM
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anyone using 518 o/d for street and track/what eng and what hp level do you have? what did you do about t/conv, l/up or non l/u? how is it holding up? if bb, what did u use for bellhousing? thanks in advance.




I'm running a 518 in the Rampage... I changed the input
shaft and pump to use a standard hi stall conv.. I
dont have lock up that way... its behind a 550 hp 418ci...
love the OD... cuts the revs down nicely with 4.10
gears

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467809
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thank you am thinking of building 540 for my s/w that may weigh 37-3800 lbs., w/3.54 gears at 65 mph and 33" tall tires rpm would be approx. 2400.trying to cut that down some w/out buying gear vendors or keisler od unit. bellhousing may be biggest concern due to bolt pattern. thanks again. very nice rampage. I had one black and silver 2.2 5spd 32 mpg. wish I still had it. yours is a lot neater though.

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467810
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anyone using 518 o/d for street and track/what eng and what hp level do you have? what did you do about t/conv, l/up or non l/u? how is it holding up? if bb, what did u use for bellhousing? thanks in advance.




I'm running a 518 in the Rampage... I changed the input
shaft and pump to use a standard hi stall conv.. I
dont have lock up that way... its behind a 550 hp 418ci...
love the OD... cuts the revs down nicely with 4.10
gears





Mike, Did you just use a 727 pump and input shaft? Beep

Re: 518 o/d [Re: Bigbeep] #1467811
07/14/13 11:24 PM
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anyone using 518 o/d for street and track/what eng and what hp level do you have? what did you do about t/conv, l/up or non l/u? how is it holding up? if bb, what did u use for bellhousing? thanks in advance.




I'm running a 518 in the Rampage... I changed the input
shaft and pump to use a standard hi stall conv.. I
dont have lock up that way... its behind a 550 hp 418ci...
love the OD... cuts the revs down nicely with 4.10
gears





Mike, Did you just use a 727 pump and input shaft? Beep




I believe its a 727 pump and input... I got it from Cope

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467812
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what year do you use? and what did you do to the valve body? is it a manual valve body? thanks

Re: 518 o/d [Re: headhunter] #1467813
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what year do you use? and what did you do to the valve body? is it a manual valve body? thanks




Its a early 90s trans... mine is a 3 pin connector
or you can use a single pin connector... do not use
the 7 pin unit.. that requires the computer to control
the trans.. mine is just a regular valve body so it
shifts like a normal trans... but the OD can be left
on in any gear... but its advised to not put a lot
of power to the OD unit... its just a clutch that
engages it with a 900# spring pressure

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467814
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I have a 518 in my 92 D150 however its behind a relatively stock 5.2 ( 318) that runs low 15s, Last year I pulled the trans and had a M/P shift kit installed as well as having the stock lockup converter redone by Lenny at Ultimate the results are a tenth reduction in 60 ft times and a nice hard first to second shift as well as crisp shifts 2nd to 3rd. A number of years ago I changed the rear from 3.55s to 4.10s with the overdrive it still cruises at low rpms. When I`m racing it , I take it out of overdrive.

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Re: 518 o/d [Re: 11secdart] #1467815
07/15/13 10:18 PM
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I put the trans-go kit in it from the get go and run
a 5000 stall conv... it shifts good and firm but I'm
still playing with throttle pressure... even in lock
up in high gear it accelerates hard... this should end
up being a 10.0 ride

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467816
07/16/13 02:58 PM
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anyone using 518 o/d for street and track/what eng and what hp level do you have? what did you do about t/conv, l/up or non l/u? how is it holding up? if bb, what did u use for bellhousing? thanks in advance.




I'm running a 518 in the Rampage... I changed the input
shaft and pump to use a standard hi stall conv.. I
dont have lock up that way... its behind a 550 hp 418ci...
love the OD... cuts the revs down nicely with 4.10
gears





any truth to the claim that SMR makes that the A500/518 is sucking enough power to slow you down 1.5 seconds?

http://smrtrans.tripod.com/smrtransmissionsintro/id21.html

just curious what your experience has been Mr. P-body, as their claim doesn't pass this engineer's smell test...


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Re: 518 o/d [Re: patrick] #1467817
07/17/13 11:04 AM
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Wow that -1.5 sec would have made my old 5.2 93
Dakota a 11 sec ride.
my best with the 518 trans was a 13.25
I would be very skeptical

Re: 518 o/d [Re: patrick] #1467818
07/17/13 12:35 PM
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anyone using 518 o/d for street and track/what eng and what hp level do you have? what did you do about t/conv, l/up or non l/u? how is it holding up? if bb, what did u use for bellhousing? thanks in advance.




I'm running a 518 in the Rampage... I changed the input
shaft and pump to use a standard hi stall conv.. I
dont have lock up that way... its behind a 550 hp 418ci...
love the OD... cuts the revs down nicely with 4.10
gears





any truth to the claim that SMR makes that the A500/518 is sucking enough power to slow you down 1.5 seconds?

http://smrtrans.tripod.com/smrtransmissionsintro/id21.html

just curious what your experience has been Mr. P-body, as their claim doesn't pass this engineer's smell test...




I cant say yet.. I havent been to the track to see
what this will do... the trans is heavy... maybe 40#
heavier than a 727 but as a feel of the pants I
dont see it dumping 1.5 seconds
EDIT
the rear OD drum and clutch pack is stopped like they
said but its not all that much weight due to it being
fairly close to the centerline... but its gonna eat
some power but I'm not buying their sales pitch
of 1.5.. if you look at their kit thats also with
a torque conv.. so thats not apples to apples

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Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467819
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Mike its been a while since I put that trans together but as I remember it has a 518 non lock up input shaft and pump. This would have come out of an early 90's dodge diesel. Front drum is slightly different then a 727, so you need the unique non lock up early 90's pump and input shaft.

Trans holding up OK? I was wondering if the OD unit would live under that much power.

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467820
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I put the trans-go kit in it from the get go and run
a 5000 stall conv... it shifts good and firm but I'm
still playing with throttle pressure... even in lock
up in high gear it accelerates hard... this should end
up being a 10.0 ride





Raff, which trans-go kit did you use?


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Re: 518 o/d [Re: dizuster] #1467821
07/17/13 02:12 PM
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Mike its been a while since I put that trans together but as I remember it has a 518 non lock up input shaft and pump. This would have come out of an early 90's dodge diesel. Front drum is slightly different then a 727, so you need the unique non lock up early 90's pump and input shaft.

Trans holding up OK? I was wondering if the OD unit would live under that much power.




I dont recall... I just called CRT and John said he
had the parts... so far its only had about 30 miles
on it and I just roll into the OD but I like that
I can be in OD in any gear.. but if its on I try to
take it some what easy on it.... Scott do you remember
which Trans go kit I got

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467822
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what year do you use? and what did you do to the valve body? is it a manual valve body? thanks




Its a early 90s trans... mine is a 3 pin connector
or you can use a single pin connector... do not use
the 7 pin unit.. that requires the computer to control
the trans.. mine is just a regular valve body so it
shifts like a normal trans... but the OD can be left
on in any gear... but its advised to not put a lot
of power to the OD unit... its just a clutch that

So how is the OD activated?? I would think you'd only want it applied in the high (1:1) gear...
engages it with a 900# spring pressure




Re: 518 o/d [Re: cudadoug] #1467823
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what year do you use? and what did you do to the valve body? is it a manual valve body? thanks




Its a early 90s trans... mine is a 3 pin connector
or you can use a single pin connector... do not use
the 7 pin unit.. that requires the computer to control
the trans.. mine is just a regular valve body so it
shifts like a normal trans... but the OD can be left
on in any gear... but its advised to not put a lot
of power to the OD unit... its just a clutch that

So how is the OD activated?? I would think you'd only want it applied in the high (1:1) gear...
engages it with a 900# spring pressure








Being its electrically activated I have a switch on
the shifter to kick it on and off

Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467824
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I have a 91 518 in my 58 Ply 2dr wgn w/a mild 392. Car runs high 13's w/3.91's and cruises at 70-80 well under 3000. Car weighs around 4250 empty. The Hemi gets alot of attention but the 518 makes the car.

Re: 518 o/d [Re: Handygun] #1467825
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I have a 94 518 going in my Aspen, putting the input shaft and pump out of the non lock up is a good idea to get a better converter selection.

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Re: 518 o/d [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1467826
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what year do you use? and what did you do to the valve body? is it a manual valve body? thanks




Its a early 90s trans... mine is a 3 pin connector
or you can use a single pin connector... do not use
the 7 pin unit.. that requires the computer to control
the trans.. mine is just a regular valve body so it
shifts like a normal trans... but the OD can be left
on in any gear... but its advised to not put a lot
of power to the OD unit... its just a clutch that
engages it with a 900# spring pressure





Just to clarify, what exactly so you mean the OD can be left on in any gear? Do you mean you can just leave it on and it works normally or is the OD engaged along with whatever gear it's in(example 1st + OD)?

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